Netanyahu row with Obama administration deepens

Pope 1, Tel Aviv 0.

bb1 wrote:Pope 1, Tel Aviv 0.

Yep, and this may make the score even larger - Bibi is spitting nails! LL

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/04/02/world/iran-nuclear-talks/

I have decided that I couldn't give a XXXX about his opinion on the subject.

Israel DOES have nuclear weapons, and he's more than crazy enough to use them. Yet Israel refuses to co-operate with international authorities.

Sanction Israel for a change, bunch of damned hypocrites.

bb1 wrote:I have decided that I couldn't give a XXXX about his opinion on the subject.

Israel DOES have nuclear weapons, and he's more than crazy enough to use them. Yet Israel refuses to co-operate with international authorities.

Sanction Israel for a change, bunch of damned hypocrites.

Every time anything happens that Israel (and I mean the country, NOT the Jews outside its boundaries) dislikes they start the screaming, mainly the Holocaust card.  There's no thought of the other countries that surround  share boundaries with Iran because they, of course, are Muslim  and therefore not God's Chosen people.    Suppose someone like Imadinnerjacket had remained in power, would he have stopped his nuclear bomb research?   No, and he was mad as a hatter and would haved bombed Israel without caring one jot for anyone else in the area.    The West and the Soviets had many nuclear bombs but they managed to hold back even after perceived provocations on both sides.    But Bibi is not mad, he is more dangerous because he is clever and calculating and he would use the bomb without hesitation.    The sooner someone in Israel deals with him as Rabin was dealt with the better.     LL

I have little doubt that Israel, and their Zionist chums in Washington, is at the back of much of the chaos in the Middle East, LL. It suits them nicely to have Muslims killing each other, after all.

Ever noticed that the one nation on earth that doesn't seem bothered about ISIS is Israel?

And I find myself getting increasingly annoyed when Israel uses their particular sky pixie as an excuse for stealing other people's land.

Oh look, Iranians are perfectly normal human beings! They don't have two heads, horns or tails, and ar@e around taking selfies and tweeting just like everyone else:

http://rt.com/news/246441-obama-selfie-twitter-iran/



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Netanyahu Says Final Nuclear Deal Must Include Iran’s Recognition of Israel

By JODI RUDOREN APRIL 3, 2015

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel convened a special session of his security cabinet on Friday to review the framework deal on limiting Tehran's nuclear program.

JERUSALEM — Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel introduced a new demand Friday for the final phase of negotiations over Iran’s nuclear program, saying the completed deal must include an “unambiguous Iranian recognition of Israel’s right to exist.”

Mr. Netanyahu, the world’s most vocal critic of the emerging agreement between six world powers and Iran, convened a special session of his security cabinet on Friday, hours before the onset of the Passover holiday, to review the framework agreement announced the night before.

He emerged saying the group “is united in strongly opposing the proposed deal,” contending it “would pose a grave danger to the region and to the world, and would threaten the very survival of the state of Israel.”

As the negotiations continued furiously in Lausanne, Switzerland, over the past week, Mr. Netanyahu made daily statements railing against them. He emphasized Iran’s involvement in regional conflicts, most recently Yemen, and denounced an Iranian general’s declaration in recent days that “the destruction of Israel is nonnegotiable.”

“Well, I want to make clear to all: the survival of Israel is nonnegotiable,” the prime minister declared on Friday. “Israel will not accept an agreement which allows a country that vows to annihilate us to develop nuclear weapons, period.”

Israel is not a party to the talks, which aim to reach a final accord by June 30, and at times he has complained of being left out of the loop. But President Obama, in a telephone call to Mr. Netanyahu shortly after the framework was announced, promised to renew security consultations and deepen coordination.

One question going forward is how fiercely Mr. Netanyahu will fight the deal in Congress, where he spoke against it last month at the invitation of the House speaker, John A. Boehner, a Republican, infuriating the White House and some Democratic members.

He gave no hint of his next steps in the Friday statement, beyond the demand for recognition. While Mr. Netanyahu had not previously mentioned recognition in regard to Iran, he has made a similar call in recent negotiations with the Palestinians.

Asked on Friday about Mr. Netanyahu’s new demand, a State Department spokeswoman, Marie Harf, told reporters in Washington that the negotiations with Iran on the agreement were “only about the nuclear issue.”

In the Palestinian arena, Mr. Netanyahu has demanded not only the recognition of Israel’s right to exist – something the leadership has already done — but recognition that Israel is the nation-state of the Jewish people. Without that recognition, the prime minister argues, any peace deal would not necessarily portend the end of the long-running conflict.

Mr. Netanyahu’s statement on the Iran deal was his lengthiest and most detailed of the past week.

It criticized the framework agreement, saying it leaves “Iran with a vast nuclear infrastructure,” since it does not call for shutting facilities, destroying centrifuges or halting research and development. The prime minister also criticized the promise to “lift sanctions immediately,” saying it “would greatly bolster Iran’s economy” and “give Iran thereby tremendous means to propel its aggression and terrorism throughout the Middle East.”

“Such a deal does not block Iran’s path to the bomb,” he said, reprising language he used in his speech to Congress. “Such a deal paves Iran’s path to the bomb.”

The alternative, he said, is not war, but “standing firm, increasing the pressure on Iran until a good deal is achieved.”

I think the reply to that is going to be, When you recognise Palestinans' right to exist.

I am really, really sorry he got re-elected, LL, I can see him being the downfall of Israel, in the long run. He scares me, to be honest, IMO, he is deranged enough to use nuclear weapons. And it does bug me that Israel has them, but refuses to co-operate with anyone - other nations have been regime-changed for less.

Pity no-one seems to be aiming for a Middle East with NO nuclear weapons.

He's very frightening, bonny, because he is highly intelligent but also paranoid over his brother being killed by the Palestinians.   This mix bodes ill for everyone for as long as he holds power and the Holocaust is dug up by him at every opportunity.    Also, while he has the military manpower and those nuclear weapons he is more dangerous that Hitler and Stalin combined.   He needs removal from power but it MUST be by a fellow Israeli.    LL

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He's very frightening, bonny, because he is highly intelligent but also paranoid over his brother being killed by the Palestinians.

Strictly speaking, his brother WASN'T. He died on active service, like many another soldier all over the world:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yonatan_Netanyahu

Yonatan "Yoni" Netanyahu (Hebrew: יוֹנָתָן "יוֹנִי" נְתַנְיָהוּ; March 13, 1946 – July 4, 1976), was the commander of the elite Israeli army commando unit Sayeret Matkal. He was the only Israeli soldier killed in action during Operation Entebbe in Uganda.

He was awarded the Medal of Distinguished Service for his conduct in the Yom Kippur War. His younger brother, Benjamin Netanyahu, is the current Prime Minister of Israel.

People who join 'elite special forces' do so knowing they are liable to be killed themselves - or they should do.

I know, bonny, but in a deranged mind the death of a brother can often be taken out of context. My Jewish friend, who also happens to be godfather to my 3 kids, told me that Netanyahu has stated privately that 'they' ' killed his brother and he wants revenge - and everyone knows who 'they' are. LL

That is very worrying, LL, and I would agree, Netenyahu is deranged if he is thinking that way.

Civilians who die in the course of conflicts, whether they've been blown up by a suicide bomber crazy, or killed by Israeli shellfire, are victims of 'them'.

Battle-hardened soldiers who die in the course of special ops are NOT victims of anyone; that doesn't lessen their family's loss, of course, but they sign up knowing they're liable to die themselves and choose to take that risk.

Netenyahu has done so much damage to Israel. I am sure there are many like me, who used to admire Israel for everything it had achieved against the odds. Now, because of people like him, I am beginning to think it would have been better for the world if Israel hadn't been created in the first place, so much trouble and strife seems to stem from Tel Aviv.

IMO, he's far more dangerous than Fat Spoonbanger and Israel under him is rapidly becoming a rogue state.

Israeli prime minister’s teen son maligns Muslims on Facebook. This happened in 2011. LL

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/06/25/154724.html

The younger Netanyahu’s Facebook page also included comments on the Israeli version of the TV show Big Brother and a “like” directed at Israeli supermodel Bar Refaeli, alongside photos of himself with international dignitaries like former president of the United States, Bill Clinton, and Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, according to the report.

I wouldn't call those two dirty old men 'dignitaries'.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2015/04/09/tom-cottons-four-day-war-against-iran/

An attack on Iran “would be something more along the lines of what President Clinton did in December 1998 during Operation Desert Fox. Several days [of] air and naval bombing against Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction facilities for exactly the same kind of behavior. For interfering with weapons inspectors and for disobeying Security Council resolutions. All we’re asking is that the president simply be as tough as in the protection of America’s national security interest as Bill Clinton was.”

–Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), interview on the Family Research Council’s Washington Watch radio program, April 7, 2015

More from warmongering lunatic at link.

It's hard to blame ANY country for wanting nuclear weapons with nutjobs like that on the loose.

OMG....we all know how Iraq turned out too.....

They never seem to have a Plan B for what happens when Iran shoots back. And they seem to forget that countries like Iran see what has been done to Iraq, Libya, etc., and will NEVER let it happen to them.

I guess they want war.......