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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:02 am

https://www.rt.com/news/323215-warplane-crash-syria-turkey/

[video]

A Russian Su-24 fighter has been shot down in Syria, the Russian Defense Ministry said, adding the plane hadn’t violated Turkish airspace and was flying at an altitude of 6,000 meters.
“During the flight, the aircraft was flying within the borders of Syria, which was registered by objective monitoring data,” the ministry said, adding that the aircraft was "supposedly shot down from the ground.”

...more at link.

Turkey is quite incompetent enough to have done it accidentally, malicious enough to have done it deliberately, and corrupt enough to have done it to help their chums in ISIS.

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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:14 am

Old Holborn Retweeted
Breaking News ‏@NewsOnTheMin 2h2 hours ago
BREAKING: Syrian rebels aligned with Turkey have captured one Russian pilot and are currently searching for the other. (@intlspectator)

Old Holborn ‏@Holbornlolz 1h1 hour ago
Activate the Putinator. Vlad will now back the Kurds.


Yup. Turkey never was known for its smarts, and its got worse under Erdrogan. Nasty bit of work.
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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:32 am

Looks like Turkey has messed up VERY badly..

https://twitter.com/CNNTURK_ENG

CNN Türk ENG ‏@CNNTURK_ENG 7m7 minutes ago
#BREAKING Flight radar track on downed warplane issued by Turkish military

Turkey shoots down Russian fighter CUkdnCuW4AAxX9L

That's no lengthy 'incursion', it's either an accident or an ill-considered short cut. And no way could the Turkish pilot have had time to ask for permission - a jet fighter would have covered that distance in minutes.
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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:35 am

https://www.rt.com/news/323216-rt-correspondents-injured-syria/

2 RT reporters injured on Syria-Turkey border by anti-tank shell (VIDEO)

Two RT correspondents have sustained injuries after a press convoy was shelled on the Turkish-Syrian border. One of the reporters sustained serious injuries after a missile exploded near a car carrying RT crew members.

he crew were passing the village of Al-Dagmashliya in the province of Latakia, controlled by President Bashar Assad’s forces, when they came under shelling.


RT’s Roman Kosarev sustained a concussion while RT Arabic’s Sargon Hadaya was injured by pieces of shrapnel in his back and leg.

Kosarev said that the press convoy was hit by an anti-tank missile coming from a rebel-controlled area some 2.5 km away.

RT's Roman Kosarev has covered conflicts extensively. In particular, he reported from the Donetsk region where local militia fought against Ukrainian forces.
...etc.

Turkey seems determined to make the bear angry. That never ends well.
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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:37 am

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Turkman rebels celebrate dead Russian pilot.


[video of celebrating snackbars]

ps - there is NO point in watching Sky, etc, on this, they are hours behind assorted twitter feeds.
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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:16 am

Old Holborn ‏@Holbornlolz 3m3 minutes ago
It's probably worth noting that NATO offices in Brussels are closed today. Due to a hunt for an ISIS bomber *in* Brussels.



FUBAR.
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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:29 am

Breaking News ‏@NewsOnTheMin 2h2 hours ago
BREAKING: Turkish military says it warned Russian jet ten times in the five minutes before shooting it down.


If their own map is accurate, they didn't HAVE five minutes to warn the Russian plane....

News ‏@NewsOnTheMin 59m59 minutes ago
BREAKING: Russian Foreign Minister's visit to Turkey tomorrow has been cancelled. (@intlspectator
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Oh Turkey, what have you backstabbing morons done?
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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:31 am

Breaking News ‏@NewsOnTheMin 5m5 minutes ago
BREAKING: Jet downing not action against specific country. Turk official.


i doubt very much if Putin is going to see it that way - the Kremlin is a bit touchy right now about Russian planes being brought down by deranged snackbars.
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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:39 am

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Turkey requested extraordinary @NATO council meeting to inform members of downing of Russian jet. Meeting will happen at 5pm Brussels time.

Seryoso_Ako ‏@Iamseryoso 7m7 minutes ago
@haynesdeborah @NATO They probably reallized how stupid they are for shooting down that plane. Putin will never take this one sitting down


Monsterdome ‏@Monster_Dome 2m2 minutes ago
Monsterdome Retweeted Deborah Haynes
@haynesdeborah @NATO Assuming Turkey still exists, of course,
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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:41 am

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New dead pilot footage. These are the "moderate" rebels Cameron wishes to supply and Turkey supports


[video] -

of disgusting snackbars abusing corpse of dead Russian pilot.

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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:26 pm

Guardian:
The British-based monitoring group the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights says Russian helicopters are combing the area where the jet came down in search for the pilots, writes Kareem Shaheen.

And how the hell would he know? The 'Syrian Observatory for Human Rights' is one bloke in a flat in Coventry, who hasn't been to Syria - or any further than the local shops - for over a decade. Rolling Eyes
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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:28 pm

Guardian:

Reza Afshar, a former Foreign Office official in charge of Britain’s policy on Syria, predicts that Russia will do “very little” in response.

Reza Afshar ‏@RezaMac 56m56 minutes ago
#Turkey shoots down #Russia plane. Guess what Russia will do. Very little. Fears about confronting Russia have always been overblown. #Syria


Yes, that's what Napoleon and Hitler thought, too. If that idiot has been advising Cameron, no wonder it's all such a mess.
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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:51 pm

Putin is speaking now, and looks to be white with anger.

He's talking about Turkey buying oil from ISIS and financing ISIS, and stabbing the anti-ISIS forces in the back.

This is looking to be one of the stupidest things Turkey could have done - he's calling out Turkey on EVERYTHING.
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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:52 pm

Live Squawk ‏@livesquawk 3m3 minutes ago
Russian Pres. Putin: Describes Incident As ‘Backstabbing By Accomplices Of Terrorists’ - BBG
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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:01 pm

Sky:

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4. The Turkish F-16s would/should have stayed alongside the Russians for sometime before shooting. Did they? 5/5


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Very obviously not, as it would have taken the Russian jet a matter of seconds to cross that narrow finger of Turkish land.

charlottechelsom 10 minutes ago
BREAKING: Russian President Vladimir Putin says the jet was on Syrian territory when it was downed, 4km from the Turkish border.
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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:04 pm

Charles Lister ‏@Charles_Lister 6m6 minutes ago
FSA source:

The dead pilot shown on video tried to fly his parachute into regime territory. Our fighters "shot him dead from a distance.


Jesus H. Christ, those are the snackbar pigs the West - especially Washington - is arming. The nazis also enjoyed doing that sort of thing.
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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:05 pm

Conflict News ‏@Conflicts 13m13 minutes ago
BREAKING: Loss of Russian warplane is due to backstabbing, President Putin says - @business


Conflict News
‏@Conflicts
PUTIN: We've known [..] that a lot of ISIS oil goes to #Turkey, hence a lot of financial support for terrorists from Turkey - @yurybarmin


Looks like someone just shot the Arch Duke.
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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:14 pm

Ivan Watson ‏@IvanCNN 16m16 minutes ago
Abu Ibrahim al-Sheghri, a rebel from 10th coastal brigade in Syria, tells CNN fighters machine gunned Russian pilots as they parachuted


The world had better hope they didn't get their weapons from the US.
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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:46 pm

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Apparent film of Russian helicopter just downed by US supplied TOW missile. Going well, isn't it?


[video]

Time for regime-change in Washington.
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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:28 pm

Fercan Yalinkilic ‏@FercanY 2h2 hours ago
Both Russian pilots shot dead while parachuting down says Dogan News Agency citing Turkmen opposition commander
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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:43 pm

Conflict News ‏@Conflicts 2h2 hours ago
BREAKING: Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov advises Russians not to visit #Turkey - Reuters
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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:09 pm

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-24/caught-tape-syrian-rebels-destroy-russian-helicopter-us-supplied-anti-tank-missile


Obviously, this is the very definition of absurdity. It would be bad enough if the US were supplying TOWs to anyone in Syria. But this is Washington and Riyadh handing anti-tank missiles to forces that are firing them at the Iranians who are operating under cover of Russian airstrikes. Just to drive that home: the US is waging war against Iran and Russia with but one degree of separation.
Now, the FSA has released what it says is footage of the TOW attack
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Yup, it's just like the one here:

https://jatyk2.forumotion.co.uk/t4287p990-syrian-terrorists-being-trained-by-us
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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:13 pm

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-24/russian-pilots-executed-while-parachuting-turkish-media?page=1

S'OK, some of us remember those DUCK AND COVER lessons from school, in which desks are impervious to nuclear blasts.
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Post  lily Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:23 pm

O.M.G.  What has the Pres authorized?
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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:32 pm

The story so far:

NATO member Turkey shoots down Russian fighter jet and dreams up some cock and bull story (see earlier charts) to try to explain away what it has done.

Both Russian pilots eject.

Both Russian pilots are then murdered as they come in to land by the local branch of the FSA (supplied and backed by Washington), and their bodies abused. All this is filmed by said FSA, as they chant Aluha Akbar!

Meanwhile, Russian helicopters are searching for the missing pilots. At least one Russian helicopter is then shot down by the local branch of the FSA (Washington approved) using TOW missiles supplied by Washington.

Putin goes on TV, white with fury, going on about backstabbing, etc. World hides under nearest desk.
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