Re: Twitter pledges to clamp down on trolls

**bb1** Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:02 pm

She obviously doesn't think police should be criticised for things like, oh, shooting Brazilian electricians attempting to use the Tube. You can just imagine her grassing neighbours she doesn't like to the secret police.

**lily** Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:04 pm

Definitely, Bonny. Little snitch. mad

**bb1** Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:55 am

Some interesting posts and links here:

http://www.stopthemyths.info/viewtopic.php?f=149&t=8241&start=75

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It is, IMO, very telling that haters seem to think journos can't read, and that reporters can't see them openly organising hatespam whenever the McCanns are in the media.

**bb1** Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:09 am

N.M ‏@AdirenM 1h1 hour ago
Portugal has been an underdog in this #McCann business, and I don't see a way out to outcome the historic subservience to UK after Napoleon.
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The Duke of Wellington must have been IN IT. yernuts

**bb1** Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:19 am

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Sounds just like the McCann-haters.

**Sabot** Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:37 am

bb1 wrote:N.M ‏@AdirenM 1h1 hour ago
Portugal has been an underdog in this #McCann business, and I don't see a way out to outcome the historic subservience to UK after Napoleon.
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The Duke of Wellington must have been IN IT.

Wot? Napoleon might have been good for France, and I think he was. But like every other megalomaniac, he pushed his luck too far.
But even the third world worries about Portugal and it's Fascist State.

**bb1** Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:45 am

I have actually thought for a while that the likes of Morais and their ilk still resent the fact that Portugal needed Wellington's help to dislodge Napoleon from their territory, Sabot. It wasn't exactly Portugal's finest hour:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Portugal_(1807)

**Sabot** Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:01 pm

bb1 wrote:I have actually thought for a while that the likes of Morais and their ilk still resent the fact that Portugal needed Wellington's help to dislodge Napoleon from their territory, Sabot. It wasn't exactly Portugal's finest hour:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Portugal_(1807)

I didn't know that, but it doesn't surprise me. I shall read that link later.

What I have to say about Morais is unprintable.

**Lamplighter** Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:05 pm

Sour grapes? Taks
en from th 8th Duke's obituary - all those Portuguese titles and the land that goes with them? LL

Apart from his British titles, Wellington held the hereditary titles of 8th Prince of Waterloo (Prins van Waterloo) of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, and Duke of the Victory (Duque da Vitória) of the former Kingdom of Portugal with its subsidiary titles Marquis of Torres Vedras (Marquês de Torres Vedras) and Count of Vimeiro (Conde de Vimeiro). These were granted to the first Duke as victory titles for his distinguished services as victorious commanding general in the Peninsular War (in Spain and Portugal), and at the Battle of Waterloo (in what is now Belgium).

The 8th Duke of Wellington was also the 9th Duke of Ciudad Rodrigo (Duque de Ciudad Rodrigo) of the Kingdom of Spain, but on 10 March 2010 he ceded the Spanish Dukedom to his eldest child, Charles Wellesley, Marquess of Douro. In accordance with Spanish procedure, Lord Douro petitioned formal claim to the title with the Spanish authorities. King Juan Carlos of Spain, through his Minister, granted the succession of the dukedom to Douro by Royal Decree on 21 May 2010, reported officially in the Official State Gazette for 12 June 2010.

**Sabot** Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:18 pm

Lamplighter wrote:Sour grapes? Takn from th 8th Duke's obituary - all those Portuguese titles and the land that goes with them? LL
Apart from his British titles, Wellington held the hereditary titles of 8th Prince of Waterloo (Prins van Waterloo) of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, and Duke of the Victory (Duque da Vitória) of the former Kingdom of Portugal with its subsidiary titles Marquis of Torres Vedras (Marquês de Torres Vedras) and Count of Vimeiro (Conde de Vimeiro). These were granted to the first Duke as victory titles for his distinguished services as victorious commanding general in the Peninsular War (in Spain and Portugal), and at the Battle of Waterloo (in what is now Belgium).

The 8th Duke of Wellington was also the 9th Duke of Ciudad Rodrigo (Duque de Ciudad Rodrigo) of the Kingdom of Spain, but on 10 March 2010 he ceded the Spanish Dukedom to his eldest child, Charles Wellesley, Marquess of Douro. In accordance with Spanish procedure, Lord Douro petitioned formal claim to the title with the Spanish authorities. King Juan Carlos of Spain, through his Minister, granted the succession of the dukedom to Douro by Royal Decree on 21 May 2010, reported officially in the Official State Gazette for 12 June 2010.

Thanks, LL. Seriously impassive stuff.

But Napoleon did do great things for France. At least, I think he did. Although I could be wrong about this.

My only problem is in discovering which bloody Napoleon did what. And even the French don't know. Seriously, they don't.

**lily** Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:34 pm

The Napoleonic Wars were my favorite part of history at school. smile

**Sabot** Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:13 pm

lily wrote:The Napoleonic Wars were my favorite part of history at school.

But there is so much more to Napoleon, whichever one. I don't know which Napoleon canalised The Blavet, and nor does anyone else around here, because I asked. Or even if it mattered. Except to the Salmon that now leap, after they cleaned up the shit.
I saw that when they shut down various stretches, mostly cleaned up by people on Benefits.

In fact I sometimes wonder if they even know that there was more than one Napoleon, although I am not sure of how many there were either.

So which one fought The Napoleonic Wars?

**lily** Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:23 pm

Napoleon Bonapart - the Emperor.

http://www.britannica.com/event/Napoleonic-Wars

We cannot mention the Napoleonic Wars without this

**bb1** Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:32 pm

I think the first one was the only one that ever actually did much, Sabot? It's a great pity he hadn't confined himself to stopping the Revolutionary massacres and sorting out the chaos in France.

Instead of making the always-fatal, but oft-repeated, mistake of thinking he could rule the whole of Europe and much of Russia.

Oh, apologies, I see his nephew, number three, did stuff, too....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_III

**Sabot** Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:39 pm

bb1 wrote:I think the first one was the only one that ever actually did much, Sabot? It's a great pity he hadn't confined himself to stopping the Revolutionary massacres and sorting out the chaos in France.

Instead of making the always-fatal, but oft-repeated, mistake of thinking he could rule the whole of Europe and much of Russia.

Oh, apologies, I see his nephew, number three, did stuff, too....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_III

Thanks, Bonny. But which one was insane enough to take on Russia in the middle of Winter? That might help.

I am currently up to my neck in War and Peace, although I did once read The Book, and was left totally addled. So this is one time when Television might help me.

**bb1** Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:45 pm

The first one, Sabot......

**Lamplighter** Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:47 pm

Thanks, Bonny. But which one was insane enough to take on Russia in the middle of Winter?

Napoleon Bonaparte aka Emperor Napoleon 1. Did you know the Swedish Royal family is directly descended from one of Napoleon 1's generals, Jean-Baptiste Bernadotte? LL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Bernadotte

**lily** Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:39 pm

I loved the Palace of Fontainebleau so much. There is a hat belonging to Napoleon and the letter of exile on his desk. I thought they were really interesting.

**Sabot** Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:41 pm

bb1 wrote:The first one, Sabot......

That helps a bit. I thought that one was just involved in turning France into a Republic. So he got a bit carried away then. Was it him that finished up in Elba? Or was it St. Elaina?

Who cares? I have never been a Republican, but I don't really mind all that much.

The real hoot was Hitler trying the same thing. But on two fronts, as well. Those whom The Gods wish to destroy. You all know the rest.

**bb1** Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:50 pm

Elba and St Helena, Sabot.

After his first overthrow, he was exiled to Elba but failing to behave himself, he escaped and raised another army in France - which got slaughtered at Waterloo.

After that, he was sent to St Helena, for good.

Astoundingly, Napoleon actually thought the British were going to exile him in a nice country house in England....

**Jean-Pierre.t50** Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:10 pm

bb1 wrote:Elba and St Helena, Sabot.

After his first overthrow, he was exiled to Elba but failing to behave himself, he escaped and raised another army in France - which got slaughtered at Waterloo.

After that, he was sent to St Helena, for good.

Astoundingly, Napoleon actually thought the British were going to exile him in a nice country house in England....

In fairness that was the tradition. Provided the individual concerned was the "right sort of chap" - i.e. an aristo.

But Napoleon was from a relatively modest Corsican family.

He was a brilliant general and military strategist and Wellington (another brilliant general) did have a fair amount of luck at Waterloo.

**bb1** Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:23 pm

Ah. So, it was nothing to do with the invading, making war, raising armies, etc, Jean-Pierre? He didn't get his country manor because he was definitely still below the salt, even if he called himself an Emperor?

Sounds about right!

**Lamplighter** Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:27 pm

What saved Wellington's hide at Waterloo was General von Blücher and his Prussian troops. LL

After Napoleon’s return in 1815, Blücher took command of the Prussian Army of the Lower Rhine and coordinated his force with that of the British and Allied forces under the Duke of Wellington. At the Battle of Ligny, his horse was shot from underneath him and he was severely injured, and the Prussians sustained a serious defeat and retreated. After recovering, Blücher resumed command and joined Wellington at the Battle of Waterloo, with the intervention of Blücher's army playing a decisive role in the final Allied victory.

Try watching the film 'Waterloo' in a cinema in Koblenz - the chanting "Blücher, Blücher, Blücher komm!" as the Prussians came over the hill from the German audience totally drowned out the soundtrack. Rod Steiger played Napoleon and Christopher Plummer the Duke of Wellington. LL

**Jean-Pierre.t50** Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:29 pm

bb1 wrote:Ah. So, it was nothing to do with the invading, making war, raising armies, etc, Jean-Pierre? He didn't get his country manor because he was definitely still below the salt, even if he called himself an Emperor?

Sounds about right!

Nowt wrong with a bit of empire building if you came from the right family and went to the right school, as well you know Bonny.

But definitely not acceptable for a jumped up little oik like Bonaparte. He was from CORSICA for gods sake. He was lucky to get St Helena.

**bb1** Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:31 pm

Oddly, I re-watched that not long ago, LL. I didn't know Prussians joined in with it!

I suppose you can't blame the real royals for thinking Napoleon was just a bit uppity:

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Crowning yourself never really impresses people.

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