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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-17/democrats-trump-russia-conspiracy-campaign-collapses
The Democrats' Trump-Russia Conspiracy Campaign Collapses
Not surprising, as most of it was invented by her - until she made a complete fool of herself over Trump's taxes.
The Democrats' Trump-Russia Conspiracy Campaign Collapses
Not surprising, as most of it was invented by her - until she made a complete fool of herself over Trump's taxes.
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/20/live-updates-fbi-director-james-comey-testifies-congress/
I can't make head nor tail of any of this, and I don't think I'll bother trying. It's like a bad script for a TV movie.
Oh, and US security agencies should never, ever have got so involved in politics - it's probably safest to assume that all concerned are lying to cover their asses.
I can't make head nor tail of any of this, and I don't think I'll bother trying. It's like a bad script for a TV movie.
Oh, and US security agencies should never, ever have got so involved in politics - it's probably safest to assume that all concerned are lying to cover their asses.
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Personally I think Comey is not exactly being too truthful.....
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And now it seems Trump and his people WERE being spied on by Obama's lot?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-22/nunes-trump-transition-members-and-possibly-trump-himself-were-under-surveillance-du
Nunes Confirms There Was "Incidental Surveillance" Of Trump During Obama Administration, "Seems To Be Inappropriate"
On top of that, many of the recent 'anti-semitic hate crimes' were hoaxes to stir up trouble:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-23/israeli-teenager-arrested-over-phone-threats-jewish-community-centers
Three weeks after we reported that a St. Louis man, Juan Thompson - a former Intercept reporter and staunch Bernie Sanders supporter - was arrested in connection with at least eight of the dozens of bomb threats made against Jewish organizations across the country, an effort which many described as a "false flag" attempt to implicate and blame "anti-semitic" Trump supporters, today the NYT reported that police arrested an Israeli teenager with dual US-Israeli citizenship in further connection with scores of threats to Jewish institutions, including dozens of community centers in the United States, law enforcement officials said.
A spokesman for the Israeli police Micky Rosenfeld, said the suspect, from the Ashkelon area of southern Israel, had also made threats to institutions in Australia and New Zealand, as well as to at least one commercial airline flight, forcing an emergency landing. “This is the guy we are talking about,” Mr. Rosenfeld said.
Israeli authorities did not immediately identify the teenager, who they said was Jewish and 19. was expected to appear in court later Thursday. The suspect’s motives were not immediately clear although another instance of attempt to instigate a "false flag" reaction appears the most likely explanation; he was being questioned by the international investigations unit of the Israeli police.
Just appalling; apart from the trouble this moron has caused, genuine threats are far less likely to be taken seriously because of him.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-22/nunes-trump-transition-members-and-possibly-trump-himself-were-under-surveillance-du
Nunes Confirms There Was "Incidental Surveillance" Of Trump During Obama Administration, "Seems To Be Inappropriate"
On top of that, many of the recent 'anti-semitic hate crimes' were hoaxes to stir up trouble:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-23/israeli-teenager-arrested-over-phone-threats-jewish-community-centers
Three weeks after we reported that a St. Louis man, Juan Thompson - a former Intercept reporter and staunch Bernie Sanders supporter - was arrested in connection with at least eight of the dozens of bomb threats made against Jewish organizations across the country, an effort which many described as a "false flag" attempt to implicate and blame "anti-semitic" Trump supporters, today the NYT reported that police arrested an Israeli teenager with dual US-Israeli citizenship in further connection with scores of threats to Jewish institutions, including dozens of community centers in the United States, law enforcement officials said.
A spokesman for the Israeli police Micky Rosenfeld, said the suspect, from the Ashkelon area of southern Israel, had also made threats to institutions in Australia and New Zealand, as well as to at least one commercial airline flight, forcing an emergency landing. “This is the guy we are talking about,” Mr. Rosenfeld said.
Israeli authorities did not immediately identify the teenager, who they said was Jewish and 19. was expected to appear in court later Thursday. The suspect’s motives were not immediately clear although another instance of attempt to instigate a "false flag" reaction appears the most likely explanation; he was being questioned by the international investigations unit of the Israeli police.
Just appalling; apart from the trouble this moron has caused, genuine threats are far less likely to be taken seriously because of him.
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http://www.timesunion.com/7dayarchive/article/Schenectady-man-accused-of-painting-swastikas-on-11016393.php
SCHENECTADY -- The man accused of spray painting black swastikas on his own home and falsely reporting it to police as hateful graffiti was arraigned Tuesday morning in City Court.
Judge Robert Hoffman set Andrew King's bail at $500. He was expected to released from custody after posting bail.
King, 54, called police on Feb. 10 to report someone had vandalized his 523 Chiswell R0ad home with Nazi symbols overnight, Schenectady spokesman Sgt. Matt Dearing said
Even worse:
On Feb. 10, King, who is Jewish, told the Daily Gazette of Schenectady that he intended to leave the anti-semitic symbols on his house.
"This can show people who thrive on hate, in my opinion, that love trumps hate in the long run," King told the Daily Gazette. "I will consult with the religious community and see how long we should leave them up, Jewish, Christian and Muslim."
I hope he gets ten years' hard labour, complete and utter moron.
SCHENECTADY -- The man accused of spray painting black swastikas on his own home and falsely reporting it to police as hateful graffiti was arraigned Tuesday morning in City Court.
Judge Robert Hoffman set Andrew King's bail at $500. He was expected to released from custody after posting bail.
King, 54, called police on Feb. 10 to report someone had vandalized his 523 Chiswell R0ad home with Nazi symbols overnight, Schenectady spokesman Sgt. Matt Dearing said
Even worse:
On Feb. 10, King, who is Jewish, told the Daily Gazette of Schenectady that he intended to leave the anti-semitic symbols on his house.
"This can show people who thrive on hate, in my opinion, that love trumps hate in the long run," King told the Daily Gazette. "I will consult with the religious community and see how long we should leave them up, Jewish, Christian and Muslim."
I hope he gets ten years' hard labour, complete and utter moron.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-23/nsa-provide-smoking-gun-proof-obama-spied-trump
The intelligence is said to leave no doubt the Obama administration, in its closing days, was using the cover of legitimate surveillance on foreign targets to spy on President-elect Trump, according to sources.
The FBI hasn’t been responsive to the House Intelligence Committee’s request for documents, but the National Security Agency is expected to produce documents to the committee by Friday. The NSA document production is expected to produce more intelligence than Nunes has so far seen or described – including what one source described as a potential “smoking gun” establishing the spying.
Classified intelligence showing incidental collection of Trump team communications, purportedly seen by committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., and described by him in vague terms at a bombshell Wednesday afternoon news conference, came from multiple sources, Capitol Hill sources told Fox News. The intelligence corroborated information about surveillance of the Trump team that was known to Nunes, sources said, even before President Trump accused his predecessor of having wiretappedhim in a series of now-infamous tweets posted on March 4.
The key to that conclusion is the unmasking of selected U.S. persons whose names appeared in the intelligence, the sources said, adding that the paper trail leaves no other plausible purpose for the unmasking other than to damage the incoming Trump administration.
I've totally lost the thread of this, but now, it looks like, yet again, events are going to prove that Trump was right to accuse Obama of spying on him.
The intelligence is said to leave no doubt the Obama administration, in its closing days, was using the cover of legitimate surveillance on foreign targets to spy on President-elect Trump, according to sources.
The FBI hasn’t been responsive to the House Intelligence Committee’s request for documents, but the National Security Agency is expected to produce documents to the committee by Friday. The NSA document production is expected to produce more intelligence than Nunes has so far seen or described – including what one source described as a potential “smoking gun” establishing the spying.
Classified intelligence showing incidental collection of Trump team communications, purportedly seen by committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., and described by him in vague terms at a bombshell Wednesday afternoon news conference, came from multiple sources, Capitol Hill sources told Fox News. The intelligence corroborated information about surveillance of the Trump team that was known to Nunes, sources said, even before President Trump accused his predecessor of having wiretappedhim in a series of now-infamous tweets posted on March 4.
The key to that conclusion is the unmasking of selected U.S. persons whose names appeared in the intelligence, the sources said, adding that the paper trail leaves no other plausible purpose for the unmasking other than to damage the incoming Trump administration.
I've totally lost the thread of this, but now, it looks like, yet again, events are going to prove that Trump was right to accuse Obama of spying on him.
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I think it could explode soon.
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Yes......
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-01/if-true-does-not-get-much-bigger-trump-tweets-about-very-well-known-intel-official-b
After slamming NBC's coverage of the "Fake Trump/Russia story", congratulating the NYTimes for "finally getting it" on Obamacare, Trump on Saturday commented on the previously discussed Fox News story about a "very senior, very well known" U.S. intelligence official who was allegedly involved in unmasking the names of Trump associates, and who had reprotedly surveilled Trump before the nomination.
"Wow, @FoxNews just reporting big news. Source: 'Official behind unmasking is high up. Known Intel official is responsible. Some unmasked not associated with Russia. Trump team spied on before he was nominated. If this is true, does not get much bigger. Would be sad for U.S.," he added.
This is beyond me, as is all the scheming involved in Obamacare/Ryancare/Trumpcare, but it does look as if something is about to go off bang.
And I really don't think the US Deep State/Establishment is going to like it.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-01/if-true-does-not-get-much-bigger-trump-tweets-about-very-well-known-intel-official-b
After slamming NBC's coverage of the "Fake Trump/Russia story", congratulating the NYTimes for "finally getting it" on Obamacare, Trump on Saturday commented on the previously discussed Fox News story about a "very senior, very well known" U.S. intelligence official who was allegedly involved in unmasking the names of Trump associates, and who had reprotedly surveilled Trump before the nomination.
"Wow, @FoxNews just reporting big news. Source: 'Official behind unmasking is high up. Known Intel official is responsible. Some unmasked not associated with Russia. Trump team spied on before he was nominated. If this is true, does not get much bigger. Would be sad for U.S.," he added.
This is beyond me, as is all the scheming involved in Obamacare/Ryancare/Trumpcare, but it does look as if something is about to go off bang.
And I really don't think the US Deep State/Establishment is going to like it.
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No. This is very bad indeed:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-04/susan-rice-ordered-detailed-spreadsheets-intercepted-phone-calls-trump-team
Michael Doran, former NSC senior director, told TheDCNF Monday that “somebody blew a hole in the wall between national security secrets and partisan politics.” This “was a stream of information that was supposed to be hermetically sealed from politics and the Obama administration found a way to blow a hole in that wall.”
Doran charged that potential serious crimes were undertaken because “this is a leaking of signal intelligence.”
“That’s a felony,” he told TheDCNF. “And you can get 10 years for that. It is a tremendous abuse of the system. We’re not supposed to be monitoring American citizens. Bigger than the crime, is the breach of public trust.”
Waurishuk said he was most dismayed that “this is now using national intelligence assets and capabilities to spy on the elected, yet-to-be-seated president.”
“We’re looking at a potential constitutional crisis from the standpoint that we used an extremely strong capability that’s supposed to be used to safeguard and protect the country,” he said. “And we used it for political purposes by a sitting President. That takes on a new precedent.”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-04/susan-rice-ordered-detailed-spreadsheets-intercepted-phone-calls-trump-team
Michael Doran, former NSC senior director, told TheDCNF Monday that “somebody blew a hole in the wall between national security secrets and partisan politics.” This “was a stream of information that was supposed to be hermetically sealed from politics and the Obama administration found a way to blow a hole in that wall.”
Doran charged that potential serious crimes were undertaken because “this is a leaking of signal intelligence.”
“That’s a felony,” he told TheDCNF. “And you can get 10 years for that. It is a tremendous abuse of the system. We’re not supposed to be monitoring American citizens. Bigger than the crime, is the breach of public trust.”
Waurishuk said he was most dismayed that “this is now using national intelligence assets and capabilities to spy on the elected, yet-to-be-seated president.”
“We’re looking at a potential constitutional crisis from the standpoint that we used an extremely strong capability that’s supposed to be used to safeguard and protect the country,” he said. “And we used it for political purposes by a sitting President. That takes on a new precedent.”
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Yes, Bonny. It is very bad and stinks to high heaven.
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http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2017/04/04/scott-uehlinger-susan-rice-unmasking-abuse-power-violates-spirit-law-further-investigated/
“Since basically the Obama administration has sort of loaded this with these rule changes and all to allow for leaks the fact that there is no ‘smoking gun’ of Trump administration collusion with Russia indicates that there isn’t any. There is nothing substantial here because a juicy morsel like that would certainly have been leaked by the same people that have been leaking everything else. The fact it hasn’t been leaked out means it does not exist,” he reasoned.
Kassam said some of the Russia hysteria came from imputing sinister motives to conventional business dealings, arguing that Trump’s organization made deals around the world, and it is exceedingly difficult to do business with any Russian entity that is not somehow connected to the Russian government.
“That’s an excellent point. You’re absolutely right,” Uehlinger responded. “It shows these people who are doing these gambits are relying on the relative ignorance of the American public of the actual nuts and bolts of intelligence to make their point. Anyone with any background in this stuff can see it for what it is: a desperate attempt to discredit an administration because they were crushed in the past elections.”
So, all the Evil Russkis stuff was bullsh*t, and what Obama was up to was actually worse than Watergate? I can't actually get my head round the scale, and implications, of this.
“Since basically the Obama administration has sort of loaded this with these rule changes and all to allow for leaks the fact that there is no ‘smoking gun’ of Trump administration collusion with Russia indicates that there isn’t any. There is nothing substantial here because a juicy morsel like that would certainly have been leaked by the same people that have been leaking everything else. The fact it hasn’t been leaked out means it does not exist,” he reasoned.
Kassam said some of the Russia hysteria came from imputing sinister motives to conventional business dealings, arguing that Trump’s organization made deals around the world, and it is exceedingly difficult to do business with any Russian entity that is not somehow connected to the Russian government.
“That’s an excellent point. You’re absolutely right,” Uehlinger responded. “It shows these people who are doing these gambits are relying on the relative ignorance of the American public of the actual nuts and bolts of intelligence to make their point. Anyone with any background in this stuff can see it for what it is: a desperate attempt to discredit an administration because they were crushed in the past elections.”
So, all the Evil Russkis stuff was bullsh*t, and what Obama was up to was actually worse than Watergate? I can't actually get my head round the scale, and implications, of this.
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Their use of lower education for most people and the constant ramming down the throats of people like the Kardashians have culminated in too many members of society as dumb people.
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Donald Trump launches US missile strike against Syria after chemical attack
Moscow warns of ‘significant damage to US-Russia ties’ as American military strike hits airbase in Syria in retaliation for nerve gas attack in Idlib.
In its first public response to the airstrikes, the Kremlin has issued a strong statement condemning the US move as “aggression against a sovereign nation”.
Moscow said the strikes had been carried out on an “invented pretext” and claimed the Syrian army did not have chemical weapons.
The strikes, it said, would do “significant damage to US-Russia ties” and created a “serious obstacle” to creating an international coalition to defeat Isis.
Russian president Vladimir Putin, the Kremlin said, views the strikes as an attempt to deflect world attention from civilian deaths in Iraq – where at least 150 people died in a series of coalition airstrikes in Mosul last month.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/apr/07/us-syria-response-donald-trump-assad-pentagon-live
Moscow warns of ‘significant damage to US-Russia ties’ as American military strike hits airbase in Syria in retaliation for nerve gas attack in Idlib.
In its first public response to the airstrikes, the Kremlin has issued a strong statement condemning the US move as “aggression against a sovereign nation”.
Moscow said the strikes had been carried out on an “invented pretext” and claimed the Syrian army did not have chemical weapons.
The strikes, it said, would do “significant damage to US-Russia ties” and created a “serious obstacle” to creating an international coalition to defeat Isis.
Russian president Vladimir Putin, the Kremlin said, views the strikes as an attempt to deflect world attention from civilian deaths in Iraq – where at least 150 people died in a series of coalition airstrikes in Mosul last month.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/apr/07/us-syria-response-donald-trump-assad-pentagon-live
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Just waking up to this, LL.
My first reaction is disgust - he's done the very thing he promised not to do, and IMO walked right into a pretty obvious trap.
What was the point of it all? How does killing more people help? He's no better than Hillary.
Maybe Fattie SHOULD launch an EMP over the US, give them a taste of their own medicine, see how they like being bombed instead of sitting in front of their tellies cheering while other people die thousands of miles away.
My first reaction is disgust - he's done the very thing he promised not to do, and IMO walked right into a pretty obvious trap.
What was the point of it all? How does killing more people help? He's no better than Hillary.
Maybe Fattie SHOULD launch an EMP over the US, give them a taste of their own medicine, see how they like being bombed instead of sitting in front of their tellies cheering while other people die thousands of miles away.
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At least this time the US seems to have managed to hit an airbase, instead of a school or hospital - or the Chinese embassy - but it is still YET ANOTHER US act of aggression against a sovereign state thousands of miles from US shores.
Still, the neo-cons have got to make money out of the military-industrial complex somehow.
Still, the neo-cons have got to make money out of the military-industrial complex somehow.
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http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/04/06/trump-orders-strikes-syrian-regime-airbase-response-chemical-attack/
Look at the comments - look at all the disgusted Trump supporters that don't believe a word of this shit. Now we know why Steve Bannon was kicked off the the Security Council.
Look at the comments - look at all the disgusted Trump supporters that don't believe a word of this shit. Now we know why Steve Bannon was kicked off the the Security Council.
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Oh, look who's just been on one of his clandestine trips to Syria to see his terrorist chums:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-06/evidence-calls-western-narrative-about-syrian-chemical-incident-question
Additionally, evidence indicates that rebel groups may have had prior knowledge of the attack and knew that there was a risk of chemical weapons being unleashed. The attack also came in the aftermath of a trip by Senator John McCain to meet with groups known to associate with radical jihadist factions in Syria, at a time when the United States government has been engulfed in a power struggle between different political factions who disagree strongly over what should be appropriate policy in regards to the Syrian civil war.
F*cking Traitor McCain the worst warmonger on the planet.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-06/evidence-calls-western-narrative-about-syrian-chemical-incident-question
Additionally, evidence indicates that rebel groups may have had prior knowledge of the attack and knew that there was a risk of chemical weapons being unleashed. The attack also came in the aftermath of a trip by Senator John McCain to meet with groups known to associate with radical jihadist factions in Syria, at a time when the United States government has been engulfed in a power struggle between different political factions who disagree strongly over what should be appropriate policy in regards to the Syrian civil war.
F*cking Traitor McCain the worst warmonger on the planet.
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ZH comment:
After all the misery caused by U.S. involvement in the Middle East, the millions of deaths, the millions displaced, the trillions thrown down a rat hole, it beggars belief that even a small fraction, never mind a majority of the American people are wanting to go to war with yet another Middle Eastern country. fekcing unbelievable. It also boggles the mind that the majority of the American people have even a smidgeon of trust in the attestations of the intelligence agencies. What will it take before all faith in government and the military is gone forever, or at least for a few generations? It will take the absolute worst, most unimaginable catastrophe humanity has ever seen. That is my fear.
After all the misery caused by U.S. involvement in the Middle East, the millions of deaths, the millions displaced, the trillions thrown down a rat hole, it beggars belief that even a small fraction, never mind a majority of the American people are wanting to go to war with yet another Middle Eastern country. fekcing unbelievable. It also boggles the mind that the majority of the American people have even a smidgeon of trust in the attestations of the intelligence agencies. What will it take before all faith in government and the military is gone forever, or at least for a few generations? It will take the absolute worst, most unimaginable catastrophe humanity has ever seen. That is my fear.
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Governor of Homs: US Tomahawk strike accomplished what Daesh (ISIS) & Al Qaeda have been trying to achieve against the Syrian Army for years
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Syrian Army soldiers are repelling a sudden massive Daesh (ISIS) assault near Al Furqlus, Homs Countryside right now after the US bombing
Oh, what a surprise! Whoever could have seen that coming?
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When Ed Miliband, Hillary Clinton, Erdogan and every NeoCon is cheering Trump, you may want to change horses.
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Message for Trump: mene, mene, tekel upharsin - you have been judged and found wanting. I watch, with interest, the following events as they unfold. LL
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Agree, LL. I figure that US domestic policy is pretty much a matter for Americans, but US foreign policy affects all of us.
Promising to stop regime-changing, and stay out of the Middle East, was the one thing that made Trump different, gave people a little hope for change. And now he's done this, killed more Syrians and DIRECTLY aided jihadists, who now have free rein in that area to slaughter even more innocents.
Must be great to be able to sit thousands of miles away from danger and cheer on US missile launches against other people, who are NO threat to America. It's no wonder so many in the world regard the US as the biggest threat to world peace.
Found wanting, indeed.
Promising to stop regime-changing, and stay out of the Middle East, was the one thing that made Trump different, gave people a little hope for change. And now he's done this, killed more Syrians and DIRECTLY aided jihadists, who now have free rein in that area to slaughter even more innocents.
Must be great to be able to sit thousands of miles away from danger and cheer on US missile launches against other people, who are NO threat to America. It's no wonder so many in the world regard the US as the biggest threat to world peace.
Found wanting, indeed.
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Once a flim-flam man, always a flim-flam man. My younger son and I had a bet, he said six months before Trumper dropped everyone in the sh*t, I said three. I won - my prize? Lotsa Trebor extra strong mints!! Not going to discuss the matter. LL
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I would like to know why the 'beautiful babies' supposedly killed by the world's least-dangerous sarin were somehow more special than all the other babies killed by US airstrikes on Mosul.
And more special than all the other babies starving to death/being blown to bits by US allies in Yemen.
I expect politicians to be bullshitters and flim-flam men, LL, it goes with the territory. What I will NOT tolerate is utter stupidity, incompetence and deceit. Still, ISIS and oilmen will be celebrating this morning.
And more special than all the other babies starving to death/being blown to bits by US allies in Yemen.
I expect politicians to be bullshitters and flim-flam men, LL, it goes with the territory. What I will NOT tolerate is utter stupidity, incompetence and deceit. Still, ISIS and oilmen will be celebrating this morning.
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