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Post  Sabot Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:40 pm

crazytony wrote:Sorry I should explain myself.
Does it mean Dame Hogg can step in if Madeleine's best interests are being jeopardized

Yes. And she can send people to Prison for Contempt of Court. So Bennett had better watch it.
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Post  bb1 Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:41 pm

crazytony wrote:Sorry I should explain myself.
Does it mean Dame Hogg can step in if Madeleine's best interests are being jeopardized

I simply do not know, Tony - hopefully, someone can explain better than me. But I think I see where you are going with B$own....
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Post  crazytony Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:44 pm

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crazytony wrote:Sorry I should explain myself.
Does it mean Dame Hogg can step in if Madeleine's best interests are being jeopardized

I simply do not know, Tony - hopefully, someone can explain better than me. But I think I see where you are going with B$own....
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Post  bb1 Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:51 pm

This will cheer you up, Tony - Myths spotted this, from Piers Morgan:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-2059844/Manny-Pacquiao-stared-I-snarled-youve-faced-big-before.html#ixzz1dyqu9SOJ

TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 1
I conducted a remarkably moving interview today with the mother of Jaycee Dugard, who was snatched near her Californian home by a paedophile couple when she was just 11 years old, and kept in depraved sex-slave captivity for the next 18 years – until a police breakthrough led to her discovery and release.
Jaycee bore two children by her male captor, Phillip Craig Garrido. But her mother Terry never gave up campaigning for her, constantly pressing to keep Jaycee’s face and story in the limelight, and never giving up hope that one day she would see her daughter again.
Through those long, dark, terrible years, Jaycee said she would stare at the Moon every night, and feel her mother looking down at her.

Terry wept tonight as she relived the moment of sheer ecstasy when she finally held Jaycee in her arms again.
And in that moment, my mind flashed to Gerry and Kate McCann – still living the daily hell of not knowing what happened to their daughter Madeleine.
None of us in the British media should ever give up helping them in their search for their child, regardless of all the revolting cynicism that surrounds the case.
Because, as Jaycee Dugard and her mother will testify, miracles sometimes really do happen.



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Post  crazytony Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:13 pm

bb1 wrote:This will cheer you up, Tony - Myths spotted this, from Piers Morgan:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-2059844/Manny-Pacquiao-stared-I-snarled-youve-faced-big-before.html#ixzz1dyqu9SOJ

TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 1
I conducted a remarkably moving interview today with the mother of Jaycee Dugard, who was snatched near her Californian home by a paedophile couple when she was just 11 years old, and kept in depraved sex-slave captivity for the next 18 years – until a police breakthrough led to her discovery and release.
Jaycee bore two children by her male captor, Phillip Craig Garrido. But her mother Terry never gave up campaigning for her, constantly pressing to keep Jaycee’s face and story in the limelight, and never giving up hope that one day she would see her daughter again.
Through those long, dark, terrible years, Jaycee said she would stare at the Moon every night, and feel her mother looking down at her.

Terry wept tonight as she relived the moment of sheer ecstasy when she finally held Jaycee in her arms again.
And in that moment, my mind flashed to Gerry and Kate McCann – still living the daily hell of not knowing what happened to their daughter Madeleine.
None of us in the British media should ever give up helping them in their search for their child, regardless of all the revolting cynicism that surrounds the case.
Because, as Jaycee Dugard and her mother will testify, miracles sometimes really do happen.



Very nice and, heartwarming too.

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Post  sans_souci Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:26 pm

If this happened now, the average pitchforker would:

Tell her not to bother, as statistically her daughter was dead

Tell her to shut up, as she was being boring, going on and on to keep her daughter in the news.

Decided that statistically a family member was involved and would set up an internet forum to make sure of "justice".

Produce books and leaflets to decide just how they would have behaved as parents and found her wanting.

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Post  sadie Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:48 am

thumbsup To Sans and Jayelles.

Two excellent posts.

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Post  Sabot Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:08 am

Mz. Brown has absolutely no chance of solving this case, especially since she knows absolutely nothing about it, having patently not even read The Files.
It follows that she is doing this for self aggrandisment and financial gain. The woman clearly does not know what she is talking about.
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Post  sans_souci Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:36 am

Jayelles, you raise an excellent point: "if that isn't acting with real malice, I don't know what is. Pat brown has a choice. Laying off the McCanns is not going to impair the quality of her life, yet on a daily basis, she deliberately conducts herself in a way which threatens theirs"

She is putting it forward that it is her "duty" as a "professional profiler" to pursue this case. It is, in reality, nothing more than a hobby. What an empty, sad life she must lead to do this for the applause of the likes of "stella" and "petermac"

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Post  bb1 Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:01 pm

PAT BROWN
@ProfilerPatB
Was #Maddie a priority when there was child neglect, obstruction of the police investigation, flight from Portugal, & legal actions? #McCann
3 hours ago via web


WTF is she talking about? Been on the breakfast wine again, has she? That doesn't even made sense, let alone have anything to do with reality.

You're right, sans, how lousy does your life have to be that you spout hate for the applause of a bunch of socks on a backwater internet site?
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Post  bb1 Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:39 pm

SNAKE OIL SALESMAN - A US VIEW OF B$OWN - Page 6 Brownb10

Oh, where have we heard vainglorious boasting like that before?
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Post  Sabot Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:41 pm

Jayelles wrote:Brown says there is nothing libelous in her profile and that she will stand up for it in court. IMO, this can only mean one thing - has she re-written it?

The version of the profile that I read suggested that the McCanns and their friends covered up Madeleine's sudden death, that her father disposed of her body and that both her parents were involved in moving her body a further two times.

These are VERY serious crimes. It is libelous to falsely accuse someone of a serious crime. Brown does so on the basis of misinformation. Her theory also requires the reader to disregard more than a dozen witness statements which corroborate the McCann version of events. Despite seasoned case followers on both sides dismissing her profile as ludicrous, she continues gto promote it, claiming that she is the victim of a hate campaign only.

It's okay for Americans to accuse people of committing Murder when they have No Evidence. It's in The Constitution. Didn't you know that?

I am still searching for it in The Constitution, but I'm sure it's there as Mz. Brown does this all of the time. I'll let you all know when I find it. But don't hold your breath. I could be gone sometime.
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Post  bb1 Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:15 pm

ProfilerPatB PAT BROWN
A #FB page where you can follow the news as it breaks on my upcoming lawsuit against Kate & Gerry #McCann tinyurl.com/7taquk6 @annembremner


There's no 'news' there, just her tweets we have seen already, plus the adoration of her fans.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Profiler-Pat-Brown-uses-Anne-Bremner-to-sue-Kate-and-Gerry-McCann/243809885675504

Grifter!
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Post  bb1 Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:39 pm

You're right, Jayelles, it is pretty tacky-looking.

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If we use pics like that, we get accused of photoshopping them.

Gisele Harrison Pat, I see you're losing your popularity on Nancy Grace and other shows. Give it up - you are one lousy profiler.

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Post  bb1 Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:46 pm

Think you are right, Jayelles...it looks slightly better now, in response to the adored one's pleas..



Profiler Pat Brown uses Anne Bremner to sue Kate and Gerry McCann
Thanks Pat for tweeting about the page on twitter. Please feel free to post any info as and when it comes in.
Like · Comment · 2 hours ago ·
Frances Mc Carthy and Christine Bols like this.

Pat Brown Be happy to do so! But, people are questioning why you are using such terrible pics of Anne and me on a page supporting our action and Freedom of Speech! Can you switch those out for something more pleasing?
about an hour ago · 2

Profiler Pat Brown uses Anne Bremner to sue Kate and Gerry McCann Will do. They were the first I found. Sorry.


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Post  lily Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:50 pm

She must know that here in the US there is such a thing as Frivolous Lawsuits? Pcorneater

Frivolous Lawsuit Law & Legal Definition


Frivolous lawsuits are those filed by a party or attorney who is aware they are without merit, because of a lack of supporting legal argument or factual basis for the claims. Frivolous lawsuits waste time, money, and judicial resources, and fines and/or santions may be imposed upon a party or their attorney for filing such a claim.

Frivolous lawsuits may be filed for purposes of harassment or coercion, such as to coerce the defendant into paying more or accepting less money than is rightfully due. They may be filed due to lack of due diligence by an attorney in investigating a client's claim, or other reasons. Generally, the defendant must win the lawsuit before seeking a remedy for the frivolous claim.


http://definitions.uslegal.com/f/frivolous-lawsuit/
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Post  lily Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:21 pm

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Post  bb1 Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:49 pm

Not often you get to watch Bren and Mumbles fighting Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:02 pm

ProfilerPatB PAT BROWN
Don't just accept the distorted rebuttal of my Maddie #McCann Profile as fact. Read the book & decide for yourself. smashwords.com/books/view/768…



Been there, done that, Bushmeat. The leaflet is carp.

PS - books have more than 20,000 words.

It's a leaflet.
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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:16 pm

Is she incapable of going anywhere near a retail outlet without getting into a fight? She has severe anger management problems. IMO.

What a rude, agressive woman she is!
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Post  Sabot Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:04 am


What Crime are The McCanns supposed to have committed? And where exactly does she think she is going to speak? Britain doesn't do nasty Chat Shows where people are allowed to churn out Spurious Opinions and Libellous Comments.
Maybe Bennett could invite her to one of his Konferences.
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Post  Sabot Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:42 am

Jayelles wrote:Sabot, she just hates the McCanns. It's as simple as that.

Her ignorance of the case is staggering, yet she aligns herself to spearhead the campaign against them. Her personality is such that she doesn't acknowledge her errors. She is whipping a bunch of sad obsessives into a frenzy of hatred.

If any nutter acts out against the McCanns, I wouldn't be surprised to discover that he/she was one of Brown's disciples of hate and misinformation.

She is stunning in her arrogance, Jay. Who the F*ck does she think she is? This is a British Citizen we are talking about.
I as much as most am exceeding grateful for all of our American Members and the valuable help they provide, and I even am a member of two American Forums myself, but apart from basic facts of Law and Justice, would never presume to do in America what she is trying to do in this Case, and I almost certainly know a bloody sight more about American Law than she will ever know about British Law, or Portuguese Law for that matter. And by the time I have done, I will know more about American Law than she does, as well.

This is pure and nasty self aggrandisement with the expressed intention to earn money out of a Case that she patently knows nothing about. How much injury or distress she could cause is of no concern to her.
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Post  Sabot Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:20 am

Jayelles wrote:I absolutely support freedom of speech and I absolutely support Brown's right to express a theory about what happened to Madeleine McCann.

What I do NOT support is her spreading of misinformation or building and pushing a theory which is contradicted by the facts.

I consider it my right to comment on Pat Brown's behaviour. I would never consider it my right to speculate whether she abused her children or committed some heinous crime against her elderly mother. That isn't freedom of speech. That is defamation and I would consider Pat Brown's rights NOT to be defames far more important than my right to express a warped and erroneous opinion about her.

She obviously doesn't agree with you.
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Post  greenink211 Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:22 pm

Jayelles wrote:Incidentally, I found a few more aggressive tweets aimed at 7-11 employees. I'll post the screenshots if I can figure out how to get them off my iPad (suggestions will be greatly appreciated).
Email them from the ipad. If saved there simply email to yourself and open on pc.
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Post  bb1 Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:09 pm

What a charmless creature she is, Jayelles.
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