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Found it - and boy, is it a goodie!
Lies, beatings, secret trials: the dark side of police handling Madeleine case
I confronted the sweaty, corpulent figure in an ill-fitting jacket
Oops, it's on a bit..the propaganda started early, didn't it?
In internet blogs and newspaper columns, Amaral's supporters have claimed that the Cipriano case is built on lies ? a vicious smear against a decent detective trying to do his job.
It has, they say, "no connection" to the Madeleine McCann inquiry.
Experienced lawyers in Portimao, the town 12 miles from Praia da Luz where Amaral is PJ chief, disagree.
Here is something that is going to come back and bite Team Gonc on the bum, bigtime:
By the end of last week, some of the assertions made by the Portuguese had become part of a settled consensus.
For example, it was reported from Berlin to Baltimore that the police had already made a photocopy of Kate's diary ? which, if true, would mean they had broken the law ? and merely wanted to obtain the judge's approval to use it as evidence.
The reason they are so keen on it, it was alleged, is that it suggests she found her children "hyperactive" and difficult to handle, while railing at her husband's allegedly dilatory, hands-off approach.
The claims about the diary's contents were first published on Thursday by Jose Manuel Ribeiro, crime correspondent for the Lisbon daily Diario de Noticias.
which, if true, would mean they had broken the law
We now know that that is exactly what they did. It gets worse for Team Gonc:
Early on Monday evening, TV channels began to report that British forensic scientists had made a "100 per cent" DNA match to Madeleine from "biological material" ? said to be hair and "bodily fluids" ? recovered from the Renault Scenic that the McCanns did not hire until 25 days after she vanished, suggesting that they had hidden her body on May 3 and moved it weeks after her death.
With no time for reporters to make checks before their deadlines, the story spread like foot and mouth to almost every British front page the next morning.
It was only in the ensuing days that it began, spectacularly, to unravel.
The match was not 100 per cent after all, it transpired, but 80 per cent or less ? a level that, according to Professor Alec Jeffries, DNA matching's inventor, might mean that the material had not come from Madeleine at all, but another member of her family.
Even if it had, other experts said, it would prove very little.
Among readers who followed the forensic details, the case against the McCanns had been seen to suffer damage.
But others were left with a clear impression ? that the PJ now believed they had real evidence that the McCanns must have been responsible for Madeleine's (still unconfirmed) death.
As for those who still harboured doubts, more rococo "revelations" were being published widely by the end of the week, such as the claim that having bundled Madeleine's body into the car, the McCanns drove it to the marina in nearby Lagos.
There they are said to have hired a boat, swore its owner into their conspiracy, then sailed into the Atlantic, into which they tipped their child, weighted down with rocks.
Could such stories really be part of a conscious PJ strategy? Some lawyers around the Portimao courthouse believe that they could.
"Portuguese journalists aren't just making this stuff up," said Oliveira Trindad.
"They are getting it from the police, of course, and the justice officers, the people working for the prosecutors. It's obvious that some information is coming from the PJ."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-482007/Lies-beatings-secret-trials-dark-police-handling-Madeleine-case.html#ixzz1fDcahzC3
B$own really should read the whole, long article before she says another word. And then she should apologise to the McCanns, and stop her hate campaign.
Lies, beatings, secret trials: the dark side of police handling Madeleine case
I confronted the sweaty, corpulent figure in an ill-fitting jacket
Oops, it's on a bit..the propaganda started early, didn't it?
In internet blogs and newspaper columns, Amaral's supporters have claimed that the Cipriano case is built on lies ? a vicious smear against a decent detective trying to do his job.
It has, they say, "no connection" to the Madeleine McCann inquiry.
Experienced lawyers in Portimao, the town 12 miles from Praia da Luz where Amaral is PJ chief, disagree.
Here is something that is going to come back and bite Team Gonc on the bum, bigtime:
By the end of last week, some of the assertions made by the Portuguese had become part of a settled consensus.
For example, it was reported from Berlin to Baltimore that the police had already made a photocopy of Kate's diary ? which, if true, would mean they had broken the law ? and merely wanted to obtain the judge's approval to use it as evidence.
The reason they are so keen on it, it was alleged, is that it suggests she found her children "hyperactive" and difficult to handle, while railing at her husband's allegedly dilatory, hands-off approach.
The claims about the diary's contents were first published on Thursday by Jose Manuel Ribeiro, crime correspondent for the Lisbon daily Diario de Noticias.
which, if true, would mean they had broken the law
We now know that that is exactly what they did. It gets worse for Team Gonc:
Early on Monday evening, TV channels began to report that British forensic scientists had made a "100 per cent" DNA match to Madeleine from "biological material" ? said to be hair and "bodily fluids" ? recovered from the Renault Scenic that the McCanns did not hire until 25 days after she vanished, suggesting that they had hidden her body on May 3 and moved it weeks after her death.
With no time for reporters to make checks before their deadlines, the story spread like foot and mouth to almost every British front page the next morning.
It was only in the ensuing days that it began, spectacularly, to unravel.
The match was not 100 per cent after all, it transpired, but 80 per cent or less ? a level that, according to Professor Alec Jeffries, DNA matching's inventor, might mean that the material had not come from Madeleine at all, but another member of her family.
Even if it had, other experts said, it would prove very little.
Among readers who followed the forensic details, the case against the McCanns had been seen to suffer damage.
But others were left with a clear impression ? that the PJ now believed they had real evidence that the McCanns must have been responsible for Madeleine's (still unconfirmed) death.
As for those who still harboured doubts, more rococo "revelations" were being published widely by the end of the week, such as the claim that having bundled Madeleine's body into the car, the McCanns drove it to the marina in nearby Lagos.
There they are said to have hired a boat, swore its owner into their conspiracy, then sailed into the Atlantic, into which they tipped their child, weighted down with rocks.
Could such stories really be part of a conscious PJ strategy? Some lawyers around the Portimao courthouse believe that they could.
"Portuguese journalists aren't just making this stuff up," said Oliveira Trindad.
"They are getting it from the police, of course, and the justice officers, the people working for the prosecutors. It's obvious that some information is coming from the PJ."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-482007/Lies-beatings-secret-trials-dark-police-handling-Madeleine-case.html#ixzz1fDcahzC3
B$own really should read the whole, long article before she says another word. And then she should apologise to the McCanns, and stop her hate campaign.
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bb1 wrote:I think we can all see who has been feeding B$own her lines:
Let's hope he has been giving her legal advice, too
Oh yes, especially that.
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Jayelles wrote:Your theory that this was leaked from police sources is developed from logic Bonny - as is Gerry's.
Brown uses spite. Her logic seems to fly right out of the window when she's discussion the McCann case.
Jayelles, if B$own can't be a@sed doing any proper research; if she would rather concoct stupid 'theories' about bushmeat - then she deserves every bit of public scorn which will be heaped on her nasty, 8r head.
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Did B$own miss this one?
We DID leak stories to the press about Madeleine, top Portuguese cop confesses
Last updated at 17:24 21 October 2007
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-488887/We-DID-leak-stories-press-Madeleine-Portuguese-cop-confesses.html#ixzz1fDed6VXa
ProfilerPatB PAT BROWN
Libel or a theory, Gerry? "We strongly believe that individuals involved in the investigation fed the media snippets of information"
Niether - statement of fact. She really should do her homework before she opens her mouth.
We DID leak stories to the press about Madeleine, top Portuguese cop confesses
Last updated at 17:24 21 October 2007
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-488887/We-DID-leak-stories-press-Madeleine-Portuguese-cop-confesses.html#ixzz1fDed6VXa
ProfilerPatB PAT BROWN
Libel or a theory, Gerry? "We strongly believe that individuals involved in the investigation fed the media snippets of information"
Niether - statement of fact. She really should do her homework before she opens her mouth.
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The bottom line is that the Leveson Inquiry is what counts. It doesn't matter at all what B$own or Bennett or any of the other 8rs say. It is just noise.
Can't wait to read exactly who gave/sold/leaked Kate's diary to the NOTW.
Can't wait to read exactly who gave/sold/leaked Kate's diary to the NOTW.
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This is what the NOTW said at the time:
On 14 September 2008, the News of the World published extracts from 'Kate's Diary'. The newspaper claimed that the 135-page 'journal', written on an A4 pad, had been passed to them by a Portuguese reporter.
When it became apparent that Kate had not given authorisation for its release, the online article was instantly removed. Both The Sun and the News of the World published apologies and made an undisclosed payment to Madeleine's Fund.
Portugal's best-selling daily newspaper 'Correio da Manhã' had already serialised extracts from the diary during July 2008 without comment from the McCanns.
Wonder which of Gonc's cronies the 'Portuguese reporter' will turn out to be?
On 14 September 2008, the News of the World published extracts from 'Kate's Diary'. The newspaper claimed that the 135-page 'journal', written on an A4 pad, had been passed to them by a Portuguese reporter.
When it became apparent that Kate had not given authorisation for its release, the online article was instantly removed. Both The Sun and the News of the World published apologies and made an undisclosed payment to Madeleine's Fund.
Portugal's best-selling daily newspaper 'Correio da Manhã' had already serialised extracts from the diary during July 2008 without comment from the McCanns.
Wonder which of Gonc's cronies the 'Portuguese reporter' will turn out to be?
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http://thehoundingofthemccans.blogspot.com/2011/11/defective-goncalo-amaral-youre-fired.html
Yup; Gonc can thank B$own for all this getting aired again - a lot of it had almost been forgotten till she started mouthing off earlier.
Yup; Gonc can thank B$own for all this getting aired again - a lot of it had almost been forgotten till she started mouthing off earlier.
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Such a pity Brown has given little thought to the sales of Goncalo's new book, don't you think?
His past being dragged up and laid bear yet again because she wants to make a name for herself; isn't going to help his sales, so sad, too bad.
His past being dragged up and laid bear yet again because she wants to make a name for herself; isn't going to help his sales, so sad, too bad.
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bb1 wrote:http://thehoundingofthemccans.blogspot.com/2011/11/defective-goncalo-amaral-youre-fired.html
Yup; Gonc can thank B$own for all this getting aired again - a lot of it had almost been forgotten till she started mouthing off earlier.
Maybe they are secretly working to ruin Gonc?
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crazytony wrote:Such a pity Brown has given little thought to the sales of Goncalo's new book, don't you think?
His past being dragged up and laid bear yet again because she wants to make a name for herself; isn't going to help his sales, so sad, too bad.
It seems to have sunk without trace, Tony - and taken Morais with it. I somehow didn't think the good people of Portugal would be too keen to hand over their hard-earned cash to a tax dodging serial debtor in these tough times.
Or maybe they just didn't think it was a very appropriate title, under the circumstances? That yours would have been more apt?
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crazytony wrote:Such a pity Brown has given little thought to the sales of Goncalo's new book, don't you think?
His past being dragged up and laid bear yet again because she wants to make a name for herself; isn't going to help his sales, so sad, too bad.
It isn't long before the February libel trial starts. Surely the name of the person who gave the NOTW Kate's diary will be known by then? The Leveson Inquiry seems to be coming along nicely.
Gonc doesn't need all this rehashing right now.
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B$own has been doing her cod-psychology again - I have no idea who she is on about now - but she seems to have made one or two errors in it:
ProfilerPatB PAT BROWN
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@OldeHippi I'd say a Narcissistic Personality Disorder is likely. He She craves attention, worship by his patients her groupies, power, & thinks he's she's right.
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@OldeHippi I'd say a Narcissistic Personality Disorder is likely.
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I was following that bit of amateur guesswork relating to Conrad Murray. She has no qualifications in psychology or psychiatry but pretends she can make a diagnosis based on guesswork. Pathetic woman really. But even more pathetic are the people who hang on to her every word.
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greenink211 wrote:I was following that bit of amateur guesswork relating to Conrad Murray. She has no qualifications in psychology or psychiatry but pretends she can make a diagnosis based on guesswork. Pathetic woman really. But even more pathetic are the people who hang on to her every word.
So true, greenink. The woman is a fraud.
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But, since when brown can do (or knows how) proper research?
only in her brain
only in her brain
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Ah, it was Murray, was it? Is there anything she isn't a self-appointed expert on?
BTW, which European nation has she insulted today, as she's done Norway, Britain and Portugal?
BTW, which European nation has she insulted today, as she's done Norway, Britain and Portugal?
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Not me, Jayelles. Good game, is it?
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ROFLMAO!!!
B$own's got a new admirer - triangle man in person.
thentherewere4 says:
Personal message sent over two weeks ago via youtube PM to Profiler Pat Brown:
'Hi Pat - Are you a Freemason like Gerry McCann ?'
To date no reply has been received at the senders youtube mailbox.
Pat Brown did do something though, she immediately removed all links posts and images in which the questionners name or avatar appeared with hers.
B$own's got a new admirer - triangle man in person.
thentherewere4 says:
Personal message sent over two weeks ago via youtube PM to Profiler Pat Brown:
'Hi Pat - Are you a Freemason like Gerry McCann ?'
To date no reply has been received at the senders youtube mailbox.
Pat Brown did do something though, she immediately removed all links posts and images in which the questionners name or avatar appeared with hers.
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