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Re: War in Ukraine
Oh, and he also waved those photos of what looks like the Duck Dynasty cast around again, and announced that these 'proved' - something or other.
He totally ignored the small detail that the annoyed owner of the Instagram account they were snaffled from had come forward to claim them, and made it perfectly clear that they were his chums, not 'secret Russian paramilitaries', or whatever Kerry insisted they were.
How does it help anything for Kerry to tell blatant lies like that? Anyone who's been following this knows he was lying through his expensive capped teeth.
He totally ignored the small detail that the annoyed owner of the Instagram account they were snaffled from had come forward to claim them, and made it perfectly clear that they were his chums, not 'secret Russian paramilitaries', or whatever Kerry insisted they were.
How does it help anything for Kerry to tell blatant lies like that? Anyone who's been following this knows he was lying through his expensive capped teeth.
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His problem is - people aren't suckers. How does he imagine it looks to other leaders when he comes out with nonsense and outright lies? What message is it sending to, say, Ms Merkel, who is already cross about having been bugged by NSA when he spouts this rubbish? Beyond the current US administration simply cannot be trusted, and the Secretary of State appears to have mental health issues?
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http://www.infowars.com/top-u-s-diplomat-russia-has-betrayed-the-new-world-order/
Oh no, the conspiraloons will think all their Christmasses have come at once.
Oh no, the conspiraloons will think all their Christmasses have come at once.
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/10/angela-merkel-denied-access-nsa-file
Angela Merkel denied access to her NSA file
Frustration with US government rises over failure to clear up questions about surveillance of German chancellor's phone
Paul Lewis in Washington and Philip Oltermann in Berlin
theguardian.com, Thursday 10 April 2014 18.31 BST
A perfect example of how NOT to win friends and influence people.
Angela Merkel denied access to her NSA file
Frustration with US government rises over failure to clear up questions about surveillance of German chancellor's phone
Paul Lewis in Washington and Philip Oltermann in Berlin
theguardian.com, Thursday 10 April 2014 18.31 BST
A perfect example of how NOT to win friends and influence people.
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It's just so wrong. If it were Dear Leader and people like that, I can get there but friends?
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It's like watching a high-speed version of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, I am sorry to say.
No-one in Washington now ever seems to stop and ask, Why are we doing this stupid thing? Why are we going out of our way to p*ss off our own allies?
No-one in Washington now ever seems to stop and ask, Why are we doing this stupid thing? Why are we going out of our way to p*ss off our own allies?
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Funny you should say that, Bonny, as there are a few other similar things that have happened of late that occurred before the Roman empire fell.
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http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_04_24/Ukrainian-territories-used-to-belong-to-Poland-turned-into-base-for-the-nationalistic-movement-7324/
Poles living in Ukraine demand autonomy
Lord save us, that's all it needs. Whoever decided it was a good idea to stir this boiling pot needs jailed.
Poles living in Ukraine demand autonomy
Lord save us, that's all it needs. Whoever decided it was a good idea to stir this boiling pot needs jailed.
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I'm not sure, Lily, it rings a bell, but I can't remember who had what bit, the borders in that region have been redrawn so often.
Regardless, the very last thing needed was yet more people raising the temperature of the region, there are too many fingers in that pie already.
Regardless, the very last thing needed was yet more people raising the temperature of the region, there are too many fingers in that pie already.
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I need to look at clearer maps although I think LL might be able to help here at bit?
Don't like how this is going at all. I know for sure that the people there must be feeling terrible.
Don't like how this is going at all. I know for sure that the people there must be feeling terrible.
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I am heart-sorry for the ordinary people caught up in this, while the puppet-masters play games, Lily. Kerry in particular.
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They don't care just so long as they themselves are all right. They seem to lack consciences......
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I wonder how Obama would have liked it if the Russian Ambassador had gone to Nevada and handed out cakes to the defence militias at the Bundy ranch? Not a lot, I don't imagine.
But it seems to be acceptable for F*ck the EU Nuland to hand out cookies to a howling mob in Kiev.
And the resulting mess - and dead Ukrainians - is everyone's fault but Obama's. According to Obama, anyway.
But it seems to be acceptable for F*ck the EU Nuland to hand out cookies to a howling mob in Kiev.
And the resulting mess - and dead Ukrainians - is everyone's fault but Obama's. According to Obama, anyway.
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He has blamed everyone but himself during his whole presidency. He started off blaming Bush - fair enough, he can be blamed for lots of things. However, he kept going and that was wearing threadbare by then.
It would be more realistic if he started taking responsibility for something. After all, the buck does stop with him. Or so I thought......
It would be more realistic if he started taking responsibility for something. After all, the buck does stop with him. Or so I thought......
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So, where are we today?
The Mayor of Kharkov got shot, but as he's annoyed just about everyone it's possible to annoy, not to mention being a bit of a gangster, anyone could have done it. It could even be related to the football riot over the weekend in the same town.
In Lvov, the local neo-Nazis marched in honour of the creation of the 14th SS-Volunteer Division ‘Galician’ on April 28, 1943. That's the kind of episode most countries would rather forget ever happened, but hey ho.
Obama's been stamping his feet again, and Kerry has been insulting Israel for a change. No-one from Washington has descended on Ukraine to sh*t-stir for a few days, which may have something to do with the violence being at a fairly normal level.
It was certainly quieter than Obama's home town:
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/40-Shot-in-Spate-of-Chicago-Weekend-Violence-256887211.html
5 Killed, More Than 40 Wounded in Violent Chicago Weekend
The Mayor of Kharkov got shot, but as he's annoyed just about everyone it's possible to annoy, not to mention being a bit of a gangster, anyone could have done it. It could even be related to the football riot over the weekend in the same town.
In Lvov, the local neo-Nazis marched in honour of the creation of the 14th SS-Volunteer Division ‘Galician’ on April 28, 1943. That's the kind of episode most countries would rather forget ever happened, but hey ho.
Obama's been stamping his feet again, and Kerry has been insulting Israel for a change. No-one from Washington has descended on Ukraine to sh*t-stir for a few days, which may have something to do with the violence being at a fairly normal level.
It was certainly quieter than Obama's home town:
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/40-Shot-in-Spate-of-Chicago-Weekend-Violence-256887211.html
5 Killed, More Than 40 Wounded in Violent Chicago Weekend
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Only a Russian source so far for today's events:
http://rt.com/news/155704-lugansk-protesters-interior-hq/
The latest is that the police and others have changed sides and their bosses in Kiev are threatening to sack them.
http://rt.com/news/155704-lugansk-protesters-interior-hq/
The latest is that the police and others have changed sides and their bosses in Kiev are threatening to sack them.
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I should think Merkel likes having this mess on her doorstep just about as much as Putin does...that stupid b*tch Nuland should never have handed out cookies to rioters and Kerry shouldn't have told risible lie after risible lie.
IMO, if it's clear after the May elections that the east wants to leave the current Ukraine, then it should be allowed to. Or are they going to be forced by Obama and co to stay united with a government they detest? Because that will end very badly indeed.
IMO, if it's clear after the May elections that the east wants to leave the current Ukraine, then it should be allowed to. Or are they going to be forced by Obama and co to stay united with a government they detest? Because that will end very badly indeed.
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From:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101620758
IMF approves $17 billion loan package for Ukraine
The International Monetary Fund board has approved a two-year, $17 billion loan package for Ukraine.
The IMF announced the assistance Wednesday following a board meeting at the fund's Washington headquarters.
The IMF assistance pledged in March was hinged on economic reforms in Ukraine. The changes included raising taxes, freezing the minimum wage and raising energy prices—all steps that could hit households hard and strain the interim government's tenuous hold on power
How on earth is Ukraine supposed to pay that back? When reality sinks in, whichever bunch of corrupt oligarchs are in power, are liable to find themselves decorating lampposts courtesy of irate citizens.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101620758
IMF approves $17 billion loan package for Ukraine
The International Monetary Fund board has approved a two-year, $17 billion loan package for Ukraine.
The IMF announced the assistance Wednesday following a board meeting at the fund's Washington headquarters.
The IMF assistance pledged in March was hinged on economic reforms in Ukraine. The changes included raising taxes, freezing the minimum wage and raising energy prices—all steps that could hit households hard and strain the interim government's tenuous hold on power
How on earth is Ukraine supposed to pay that back? When reality sinks in, whichever bunch of corrupt oligarchs are in power, are liable to find themselves decorating lampposts courtesy of irate citizens.
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Seems to be the usual MO of the IMF? They want more of that interest coming in.......
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