War in Ukraine

I gather the French president is going to have to have separate dinners on Friday for Putin and Obama, as Obama currently won't go in the same room as Putin.  

Thankfully for the world, Merkel is less petty, childish and scared, and will be speaking with Putin like a grown-up.

   What an embarrassment.  Don't know what to say as it is beyond childish and reeks of passive/aggressive behavior.........

http://news.sky.com/story/1275247/obama-impressed-by-poroshenkos-vision

Barack Obama has met Ukraine's president-elect Petro Poroshenko and told him that the US is committed to supporting the country in the long term.

Their meeting in Poland came as pro-Russia separatists continue to battle Ukrainian troops in the country's east.

The US president announced that his administration would give Ukraine $5m (£3m) worth of body armour, night-vision goggles and communication equipment.

The White House says Mr Obama has approved more than $23m (£13.7m) in security assistance to Ukraine since early March, when the situation there began to deteriorate.

Mr Obama told reporters in Warsaw: "The United States is absolutely committed to standing behind the Ukrainian people not just in the coming days, weeks, but in the coming years."

He said Mr Poroshenko's election signalled Ukrainians had rejected violence and corruption in favour of democracy.

"I have been deeply impressed by his vision, partly because of his experience as a businessman," Mr Obama said.


            

Sorry, couldn't help it, that's so far removed from reality, Obama must be trippin'.

Oh, and sorry you've got to pay for this little lot, Lily. But hey, there's nothing in the US that needs money spent on it, is there? You've got plenty to throw away supporting puppet oligarchs on the other side of the world.

Nothing pressing at all Bonny. More people are homeless and cannot afford basics but hey, what's that between O and his friends?

Another idiot with no connection to the common people. How on earth do they get elected?

I have had very little to say about my opinion of America because I have no desire to offend our American Members. But without going into specifics, I am not at all surprised.

The America I know is not like him Sabot.

They are such warm friendly and generous people with a 'can do' attitude. At least the ones I know.

He resembles no American I've ever known, either, presiding over that corrupt cabal of America's own oligarchs.

He doesn't act like a president, he acts like a ruler. And on top of everything, he seems to be hell-bent on inflicting left-wing theories on the US, despite the fact that they've failed everywhere else.

Do Presidents actually run the country? I heard that it is the people behind the throne, who don't change much from President to President. Like The FBI and The CIA. And others.
Perhaps someone is trying to bring him down. Not that I care all that much as no doubt the next one won't be any better.
But I always did think that Bush was taking the piss out of these hidden war lords because there wasn't anything else he could do. And he was very funny sometimes, if you saw things the way I did. He had me in fits sometimes, and I wasn't laughing at him.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/05/us-ukraine-crisis-fighting-idUSKBN0EF0OY20140605?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&dlvrit=992637

Fighting rages in eastern Ukraine town, residents flee
BY ALISSA DE CARBONNEL

Reuters) - Ukrainian government forces battled separatists with artillery and automatic weapons on Wednesday in a second day of fighting in and around Slaviansk, forcing many residents to flee.

The Kiev government, trying to break rebellions by pro-Russia militias, said over 300 rebels had been killed in the past 24 hours in the "anti-terrorist operation" centered on the eastern town, a strategically located separatist stronghold.

Rebels denied this, saying losses among the Ukrainian forces during an offensive begun on Tuesday exceeded theirs.

At an army checkpoint on the edge of town, heavy artillery shelling could be heard while a plume of black smoke rose above the outskirts. Automatic gunfire rattled out from nearby fields.

Families fled the fighting through a barbed-wire checkpoint with only as much as they could carry. "It's a mess," sobbed a young woman as she clutched her husband's arm. "It's war."

Andrei Bander left with his four-year-old daughter. "We are going. We don't even know where. We will head to Russia though because it's clear we need to leave Ukraine," he said, waiting for a taxi in a small a no-man's land between the two sides.

In support for the Ukrainian forces, acting President Oleksander Turchinov and Interior Minister Arsen Avakov paid an impromptu visit, clad in flak jackets, to another army roadblock on the far side of the encircled town on Wednesday.

A spokesman for government forces said two soldiers had been killed and 45 wounded since Kiev launched its offensive near Slaviansk with aircraft, helicopters and artillery.

POROSHENKO PLAN

Separatists controlling the town since early April denied the government's casualty figures and claimed to have shot down an army helicopter - something denied in turn by Kiev.

"Losses to the Ukrainian side were more than ours," said Aleksander Boroday, "prime minister" of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic. He said nine had died and 15 were injured among separatists forces in Slaviansk.

At a news conference in the regional capital Donetsk, he said separatists would mobilize forces and train volunteers to fight in Slaviansk and defend their positions in Donetsk.

President-elect Petro Poroshenko ordered the resumption of operations by government forces soon after his May 25 election to quell the rebellion by militia in the Russian-speaking, where people were largely unable or unwilling to vote in the poll.

In Warsaw, where he met U.S. President Barack Obama, he said he would unveil a plan for a "peaceful resolution" of the situation in the east after his inauguration next Saturday.

Kiev says the fighting was stirred up by Moscow, which opposes its pro-Western course, and accuses Russia of letting volunteers cross into Ukraine to fight alongside the rebels.

Moscow denies this and renewed calls on Wednesday for Ukraine to open dialogue with the separatists. But the separatists look to Moscow for help.

"When is (Russian President Vladimir) Putin going to come help us?" asked a young man in fatigues at a rebel checkpoint.

ANTAGONISM TOWARDS KIEV

A few kilometers away, a man from central Ukraine said he belonged to a separatist group called the Russian Orthodox army. "This is our land. We will stand here until the last," he said.

Slaviansk, a separatist stronghold of 130,000, has strategic value since it sits at the center of the Donbass region at the cross-roads of eastern Ukraine's three main regions.

Government forces appeared to be tightening their grip but it was too soon to predict the outcome. A government camp in Luhansk, further to the east on the Russian border, was evacuated after an attack by separatists on Monday.

The military operation has hardened antagonism against the present government that came to power when President Viktor Yanokovich was toppled in February after mass protests in Kiev.

"Our Ukrainian army is not protecting us, instead it is attacking us. Thanks to them I have to flee my own land," said Larissa Zhuratova, a Slaviansk resident piling onto a bus full of refugees bound for Moscow.

Men were mostly not being let through the army checkpoint.

At a run-down dormitory in a village some 100 km south of the fighting, an eight-year-old refugee mimicked the sound of shelling. "It went ba-boom. We sat in the bathtub," little Vitaly said, playing with toys gifted by local residents.

(Additional reporting by Thomas Grove in Donetsk and Pavel Polityuk in Kiev; Writing by Alissa; de Carbonnel and Richard Balmforth; Editing by Tom Heneghan)

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Washington puppet the Chocolate President bombing civilians in eastern Ukraine.

Why isn't the US shrieking with outrage at the UN? Why isn't Kerry demanding sanctions and blowing hot air?

Oh wait, I know. Because this is being done, in Europe, on their orders.

 

You notice that none of them have been able to produce a single actual Russian that has been doing all this 'troublemaking'?

Meanwhile, videos of Obama's allies bombing council offices, nurseries and hospitals have been going all over the world.

Putin doesn't have to do anything, he just has to sit and watch Obama's puppets hang themselves.

Who is the one with more smarts?

Well, it sure ain't the community organiser that's never done a hard day's work in his life.

You got that right, Bonny. He did say that he was lazy.

It's amazing, really, how many people look at Cameron like that. Most of them are UK voters......

Shambles of a person.

If they hadn't banned Putin from their club, they wouldn't now be having to go and pay court to him individually, which makes them look somewhat less than strong.

Except for Obama, of course, who is totally in the huff.

http://news.sky.com/story/1276361/cameron-firm-with-putin-in-ukraine-talks

Cameron 'Firm' With Putin In Ukraine Talks
Russia's president was given a "very clear set of messages" about his country's role in the Ukraine crisis, the British PM says.

Which would have all the effect of being bitten by a toothless sheep.

How embarrassing. Again.

Oh dear.



Cameron relegated to the back row, as he isn't actually a head of state. It's at times like this that I favour constitutional monarchies, as the Head of State has been trained from an early age not to do anything embarrassing in public.

Like taking selfies at memorial services.

Reports are now appearing that Obama pulled on his big boy pants and spoke to Putin.

From:

http://news.sky.com/story/1276949/ukraine-and-russia-meet-at-d-day-event

Ukraine And Russia Meet At D-Day Event
The country's leaders meet on the sidelines of D-Day commemorations and have a short conversation which touched on "key issues".

Ukraine's President-elect Petro Poroshenko has met his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin for informal talks on the sidelines of the D-Day commemorations in France.

French President Francois Hollande told a war veteran at the ceremony that world leaders had wanted to use the 70th anniversary commemorations to bring the two men together to discuss the Ukraine crisis.

An official in Mr Hollande's office said the two leaders discussed how Russia could recognise the Ukrainian elections and a possible ceasefire.

Their brief interaction, which some reports said was as short as one minute while others said lasted 15 minutes, took place after world leaders gathered for a group photograph.

Mr Hollande, responding to a question about Mr Putin during a conversation with the war veteran, described the meeting as "friendly".

He said: "Yes we talked to him and with President Poroshenko, we made Ukraine and Russia talk."

After the photo, Petro Poroshenko, Vladimir Putin and German Chancellor Angela Merkel remained outside as they talked.

No plans have been announced for a formal meeting between the two men despite a week of intense diplomacy aimed at resolving the crisis in Ukraine.

The talk is the first meeting between the two leaders since Mr Poroshenko was elected.

Mr Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov said in a statement that he and Mr Poroshenko had called for a "soonest end to bloodshed in southeastern Ukraine and combat action by both parties, the Ukrainian armed forces and supporters of the federalisation of Ukraine."

US President Barack Obama also spoke with Mr Putin at the commemoration ceremonies, marking their first face-to-face conversation since the crisis began in Ukraine.

The White House said the conversation was informal and lasted around 15 minutes as the leaders ate lunch inside a chateau.




Is that Merkel holding the coats?

Looks like her, Bonny.

For obvious reasons, Ms Merkel wasn't at the centre of the commemorations, but she seems to have been busy on the sidelines, trying to get various people communicating with each other. Which is no bad thing, if it stops the bloodshed.

I think she is a clever lady?

Putin was seen smiling later, rather like a shark that's just had an especially good meal. As he never smiles, it rather suggests he's just stitched someone up like a kipper. And I think we all have a fair idea who that Someone is likely to be.

Not Cameron?       

Not our idiot, your idiot, who eventually plucked up courage to face him.