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Post  bb1 Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:47 pm

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Post  lily Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:58 pm

Anyone could see that it wasn't about a video for starters. It made no sense whatsoever so they are not even smart about excuses.

What a bunch!!!!!!!
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Post  bb1 Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:22 am

http://www.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2014/04/225380.htm

Who the feck does he think he is, telling European governments to spend more money on weapons? Most European leaders are more concerned about the prospect of ending up hanging from lampposts courtesy of their own citizens should Putin raise the price of fuel because of Washington sh*t-stirring.

And having seen the US leave 'democracy' behind in Libya, Afganistan and Iraq, many Europeans feel they would rather be protected from the US.

Impeach the liar, along with Obama, Nuland and Clinton.
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Post  lily Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:57 pm

They do. When will they tax air and light?
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Post  bb1 Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:36 pm

Their arrogance, incompetence and corruption is increasingly reminding me of the Bourbons, pre-Revolution. And that didn't end well.
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Post  lily Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:39 pm

History does repeat itself too.  Pcorneater 
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Post  bb1 Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:14 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2616694/Horrifying-scenes-Syria-Islamic-extremists-CRUCIFY-two-fighting-against-Muslims.html

Phew, thank goodness our clever leaders are protecting us, and there is no chance of these savages getting hold of modern weapons!

Oh wait....
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Post  lily Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:29 pm

As you said....

Obama and co seem to hate ordinary Americans. Ditto your guys?
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Post  bb1 Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:40 pm

I don't think it's actually deliberate with our lot, they're just incompetent and corrupt, and interested in just about anything besides the good governance of the nation. IMO, there's actual malice involved with Obama and the gang.

If he was a PM and not a president, he'd be out of power now as he would have to explain himself in the Commons, not just issue edicts.
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Post  lily Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:53 pm

You are the lucky ones then.
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Post  bb1 Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:03 pm

Also, little though I like Cameron, he doesn't travel with an entourage. I know using Ryanair and travelling with the plebs is just a stunt, but he does mingle with the common herd, without being ten-deep in security. This also leads to embarrassing incidents involving jellyfish, or Mickey Mouse towels on Cornish beaches, but he doesn't act like an emperor. I don't like him, but he doesn't hide away from the public.

Even the royals don't carry on like Obama - they use scheduled airliners with as little security as possible.

I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw Obama arrive in The Hague like a scene from Apocalypse Now - does he think he's Beyonce or something?
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Post  lily Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:07 pm

Beyonce?  Shocked Shocked  Heck no. He is the MAN. What was the entourage number, 600 or 900 people I forget now.
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Post  bb1 Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:47 pm

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/04/30/oreilly-benghazi-no-longer-any-doubt-wh-pushed-spontaneous-uprising-theory

I hadn't taken in the significance of the dates on which the Obama administration first started lying about Benghazi - right before the elections.

He would never have been re-elected if the truth had been known then; he might even have had to pull out of the contest.

I cannot believe I ever thought he seemed reasonable and wouldn't do anything too dreadful in his second term.
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Post  lily Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:47 pm

That is true, Bonny and many people knew something or another about that problem then.

I hoped that he would make a fabulous President as I wanted him to, even though I didn't rate him. I wanted to be proved wrong and that was the first time around.
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Post  bb1 Thu May 01, 2014 11:10 am

Kerry will be upset. His chums in Turkey are currently on the receiving end of one of the traditional European May Day riots.....tear gas, water cannon, being used against protesters.

Similar uproar in Greece and elsewhere. You know, Lily, there are some European habits that really should be transported to Washington - your arrogant shower need a wake-up call.
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Post  lily Thu May 01, 2014 2:07 pm

It saddens me to say that sooner or later something will happen.
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Post  bb1 Thu May 01, 2014 2:18 pm

I hope Benghazi brings the whole lot down, Lily. Obama lied to the families of the victims, and it doesn't get much worse than that.
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Post  lily Thu May 01, 2014 3:10 pm

You know, Bonny, I thought that killing an ambassador would have had serious consequences?
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Post  bb1 Thu May 01, 2014 3:25 pm

Under normal circumstances, it would bring the government down, Lily. I don't know, is the problem that, generally, Americans have thought their government is good, while Europeans have learned over the centuries that governments generally aren't on their side, but are a necessary evil that shouldn't be respected unless respect has been earned?

I find the contempt with which the Obama gang treat everyone - ordinary citizens, the military, etc - appalling.

To put it in context, Nixon acheived semi-civilised relations with China and was brought down by the Watergate nonsense.

Obama, and more particularly Kerry, is blundering around causing upset and trouble across the globe, while driving a coach and horses through your Constitution, and lying to try to cover up the death of an Ambassador and US servicemen.

And nothing happens.
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Post  lily Thu May 01, 2014 3:34 pm

We have lost our way, Bonny. Deception seems to be the order of the day.
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Post  bb1 Thu May 01, 2014 3:57 pm

I'm watching the hearings on Benghazi just now; I felt so, so sorry for General Lovell, being unable to do anything without orders from Washington.

Shameful, he looked heartbroken.
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Post  lily Thu May 01, 2014 4:27 pm

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Post  bb1 Thu May 01, 2014 11:08 pm

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-30/replacing-russian-rocket-engine-isn-t-easy-pentagon-buyer-says

A big hand to Obama for throwing away everything his predecessors like JFK and Reagan won.
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