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Post  Sabot Mon Jan 12, 2015 3:06 pm

Don't worry, Bonny. Obama will earn millions lecturing as a Senior Statesman. Just like Blair.

No bad deed goes unrewarded.
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Post  Sabot Mon Jan 12, 2015 3:08 pm

bb1 wrote:I just came across this clip from 2008:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw

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Post  bb1 Mon Jan 12, 2015 3:28 pm

I just watched an infuriated Fox person referring to the fact that Sarkhozi's (sp) ex-wife Carla Bruni was one of those at the head of the march, and declaring,

A FRENCH ACTRESS HAS MORE GUTS THAN THE US PRESIDENT!

Which rather sums it up. Personally, I believe the security of the King and Queen of Jordan, of Lavrov and Poroshenko, of Netenyahu and Abbass, etc., was just as, if not more, important than Obama's, if people are ever going to start talking and stop killing each other.

But it's not just Obama's cowardly absence; there was NO-ONE from his administration there. There simply is no excuse, IMO.

*apologies for getting marital status wrong*


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Post  Sabot Mon Jan 12, 2015 3:34 pm

I saw Carla Bruni, very near the front line. Wife, incidentally, not ex wife.
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Post  bb1 Mon Jan 12, 2015 3:36 pm

Thanks, Sabot, I've corrected it. I do tend to get French presidents' romantic entanglements muddled up, they're so much more interesting than our lot.
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Post  Lamplighter Mon Jan 12, 2015 3:38 pm

It's Sarkozy, his paternal ancestry is Hungarian.    Read this.    LL Eek affraid
http://www.newsweek.com/french-gunman-met-sarkozy-crazy-security-blunder-298392
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Post  Sabot Mon Jan 12, 2015 3:45 pm

I do so hope that Nicholas Sarkozy will be the next President of France.
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Post  bb1 Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:09 pm

French presidents tend not to annoy me, Sabot, so I don't really know which ones are 'good' or 'bad'. I gather Sarkozy is increasingly popular, though?
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Post  Lamplighter Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:17 pm

bb1 wrote:French presidents tend not to annoy me, Sabot, so I don't really know which ones are 'good' or 'bad'. I gather Sarkozy is increasingly popular, though?
He's very different to Hollande, confrontational, unconventional and can be quite rough in his dealings with people. But I do think he is upfront and, as much as a politician can be, reasonably fair. LL
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Post  lily Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:20 pm

Well, what can I say? He's a world class leader? No. He's someone to respect? No.

In order not to bore you all, I could go on for hours, but won't.

He's a total embarrassment and then some. America is creaming him today.
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Post  bb1 Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:24 pm

Deepest sympathies to you and all the other furious, mortified Americans, Lily. hug

I am trying to think of ANY head of state that's ever pulled a stunt like this, and can't. Even the maddest dictators generally manage to behave when the occasion demands.

We can see from the US media, blogs, etc, just how angry ordinary Americans are, and I don't blame them. In effect, Obama has just abdicated leadership of what's generally regarded as the Free World. The consequences are liable to be very far-reaching indeed.
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Post  Sabot Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:27 pm

Lamplighter wrote:
bb1 wrote:French presidents tend not to annoy me, Sabot, so I don't really know which ones are 'good' or 'bad'. I gather Sarkozy is increasingly popular, though?
He's very different to Hollande, confrontational, unconventional and can be quite rough in his dealings with people.   But I do think he is upfront and, as much as a politician can be, reasonably fair.   LL

He looked good from here, LL. And he is still looking good.

France had a minor blip because they mistakenly thought Hollande would be better than the mother of his children, which he probably was. But that wouldn't have been hard.

You should have seen The Campaign when Segolen Royal ran for President. What a laugh that was.
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Post  bb1 Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:44 pm

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I hope the White House is enjoying today's papers.
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Post  lily Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:58 pm

They deserve all of that and more.....
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Post  bb1 Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:09 pm

Some Breaking News to reassure everyone:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/01/12/twitter-account-for-us-central-command-hacked-filled-with-pro-isis-messages/

Twitter account for US Central Command hacked, filled with pro-ISIS messages
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The Twitter account for U.S. Central Command appears to have been hacked, and is carrying messages promoting the Islamic State -- including one that says, "AMERICAN SOLDIERS, WE ARE COMING, WATCH YOUR BACK. ISIS."

Another page shows what appears to be an image from a computer web cam in a military facility. An accompanying tweet says, "ISIS is already here, we are in your PCs, in each military base."

Central Command officials say they are "aware" of the issue and are "addressing" it.

The Twitter account now carries an image identifying the page as "CyberCaliphate," with a message that says, "I love you ISIS."

The page has started posting screen shots of information about military commanders.


And yes, it has:

https://twitter.com/centcom

Sample:

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Post  bb1 Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:13 pm

And the YouTube, too:

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They'd better stop it or Obama will be really, really cross if they interfere with his football or golf programmes.
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Post  Sabot Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:15 pm

I would really, really like to laugh. But I mustn't.
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Post  bb1 Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:21 pm

I don't have the words, Sabot. I see the twitter account has been shut down, but there was SCREEDS of information on it, far too much for me to take in. There were some nice wargaming graphics about invading China and Korea, though. I doubt if those were meant for general release.

Which begs another question - How did whoever did this get hold of the information in the first place, BEFORE they hacked the account? Why did US Central Command even have a flaming Twitter account?

https://www.youtube.com/user/centcom

YouTube is still online.
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Post  lily Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:23 pm

It's like Lord Haw Haw.....

At least Charlie Hebdo is getting ready to print it's edition on Wednesday.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jan/12/charlie-hebdo-memorial-edition-to-include-cartoons-prophet-muhammad

That is one hilarious pigeon. rofl rofl rofl
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Post  bb1 Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:29 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/1406621/us-centcom-twitter-account-hacked-by-is

Oh, Sky got a nice screegrab of the wargaming:

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That should help relations with China no end.

Oh, that's wonderful, Lily! Pigeon poo is supposed to be lucky....
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Post  bb1 Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:34 pm

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-12/isis-supporters-hack-us-centcoms-account-threaten-us-soldiers-release-personal-detai

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Quite frankly, the Pentagon needs to be more worried about the fact that the entire world can now see they've been scheming ways to invade China, than about their stupid twitter feed.
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Post  bb1 Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:49 pm

I see some White House tw@t is giving a press conference claiming that 'we' are not just battling Islamic extremism. He seems curiously unable to say who else is currently doing all the blowing up, massacring and shooting.

And he came out with a load of waffle about Obama's no-show.
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Post  lily Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:10 pm

It is indeed lucky, Bonny. France needs it - and the rest of the Western world at this point.

Oh have they hacked into the think tanks? I believe the Rand Corporation, for example, does that constantly for world scenarios but even so, it is not good?

The White House press conferences are typically BS.
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Post  bb1 Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:17 pm

It's being downplayed now because it was 'just' twitter and YouTube, so anyone that didn't see them, won't know what was actually being posted, Lily.

That should be the worry, not who leaked the 12345-password.
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Post  lily Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:51 pm

Thanks Bonny. They have to change the games then......
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