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Post  Lamplighter Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:11 pm

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Post  bb1 Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:18 pm

I wonder, are they connected to this lot?

https://cpj.org/blog/2014/10/in-hungary-an-independent-website-defies-censorshi.php

TB: Most of the pressure comes from pro-government media outlets that launch smear campaigns against us, labeling us as the "Soros army" [a reference to American-Hungarian financier George Soros,] or as "foreign agents," and which accuse us of acting on behalf of the left-liberal political opposition


Oh, here they are!

http://www.mrc.org/commentary/soros-spends-over-48-million-funding-media-organizations

Soros funds more than just the most famous journalism school in the nation. There's journalism industry associations like:

The National Federation of Community Broadcasters;
The National Association of Hispanic Journalists;
And the Committee to Protect Journalists


They're all in the pay of Hungary's most notorious son, so their opinions are worthless.

Soros' tentacles are right through this mess, in fact - naturally, he wants European nations swamped by an anti-democratic, alien culture.
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Post  bb1 Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:16 pm

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/15/hungarian-pm-slams-soros-funded-advocacy-groups-they-are-drawing-a-living-from-the-immigration-crisis/

Embattled Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has lashed out at pro-migration non-governmental organisations (NGOs) today, singling out those funded by Hungarian-American George Soros for criticism. He said they are “are drawing a living from the immigration crisis” while Hungary is simply trying to protect its standard of living.
.....more at link.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-27/george-soros-demands-eu-accept-1-million-refugees-costing-%E2%82%AC15-billion-year-foreseeab

Whenever you have one of these 'human rights' groups whining and sh*t-stirring, it's a safe bet that Soros is involved with them somewhere along the line.
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Post  lily Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:58 pm

I just KNEW he was involved.  mad

He's getting on in age and he wants to have some fun.  Remembering his youth as the best time of his life.
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Post  bb1 Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:11 pm

Go back to what LL posted, Lily:

Hungary getting bashed by the free media lot!

They're presenting themselves as 'free media', etc., but in reality, they are anything but. They're just another bunch of Useful Idiots that have taken the Soros silver, like so many self-described 'human rights activists'.


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Post  lily Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:23 pm

He truly is one deeply wicked excuse for a man.  He must be in his element causing so much suffering for the land of his birth and so much more.
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Post  bb1 Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:46 am

http://www.itv.com/news/2015-09-30/libyan-sex-attack-cadets-seek-asylum-in-uk/

Three Libyan soldiers convicted of carrying out sex attacks in the UK are reportedly seeking asylum in this country.

Naji El Maarfi, Khaled El Azibi, and Mohammed Abdalsalam were each jailed for between 10 and 12 months for sexually assaulting three women last October.

At the time the trio were stationed at Bassingbourn Barracks in Hertfordshire.

They have since been released from prison and transferred to secure immigration units, Cambridgeshire Police told the BBC.
....etc.

How pathetic are we, that this scum hasn't been kicked out of the UK already? Remember, it's our taxes that are being used to keep them, and our taxes that will be used to pay their human rights lawyers. mad
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Post  bb1 Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:26 am

http://www.thelocal.dk/20150929/danish-police-officer-stabbed-at-asylum-centre

Danish police officer stabbed at asylum centre
Published: 29 Sep 2015 07:41 GMT+02:00
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UPDATED: A stateless Palestinian who was due to be expelled from Denmark was arrested for trying to kill a Danish police officer in a stabbing attack at Center Sandholm, Denmark's largest institution for asylum seekers.

A 56-year-old male officer with the North Zealand Police was in stable condition on Tuesday after being stabbed at around 3.30am at the Sandholm asylum centre.

The officer was critically wounded in the attack, but police said shortly before noon that his condition had been upgraded to stable.

After an intensive search and investigation, police said that a 25-year-old stateless Palestinian was arrested as the sole suspected perpetrator. The man was scheduled to be sent out of Denmark after his asylum request was denied.

"The person is supposed to leave the country and that's why he's sitting in the departure centre," police spokesman Magnus Andresen said at a press conference.
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Post  lily Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:36 pm

The excuse for a man must be really enjoying himself with his reality tv show.
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Post  Lamplighter Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:49 pm

http://www.mail.com/int/news/europe/3855990-finland-suddenly-top-choice-iraqi-asylum-seekers.html#.1272-stage-hero1-3

The Latest: Slovaks OK challenge to EU refugee-sharing plan

Slovakia's prime minister says his government has formally approved challenging a European Union decision to redistribute 120,000 asylum-seekers among the bloc's 28 nations.

Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico declined to give further details about the lawsuit Wednesday.

After the refugee-sharing move was approved by EU ministers last week, Fico said Slovakia was not ready to accept the plan and was planning a legal complaint against it at an EU court in Luxembourg.

Slovakia voted against the plan along with the Czech Republic, Romania and Hungary.
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Post  lily Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:26 pm

I apologize that this is the Tea Party but there are lots and lots of articles today about the same thing.

Soros demands Europe takes in one million muslim migrants annually.

http://www.teaparty.org/soros-demands-europe-accept-million-muslims-annually-121880/

ETA:  Perhaps we can see why Orban is being treated so badly in sticking up for his country first.

https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/rebuilding-refugee-asylum-system-by-george-soros-2015-09


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Post  Lamplighter Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:45 pm

September 30th, 2015
Foreign minister: Hungarian troops to help train Kurdish fighters against IS
By Hungary Matters

Hungarian troops serving in Kurdish-held northern Iraq will participate in training the Kurdish Peshmerga forces to fight the Islamic State (IS) terrorist group, Foreign Minister Péter Szijjártó said. The minister spoke following the UN summit on combatting IS militants in New York City. The Hungarian delegation at the summit was led by Prime Minister Viktor Orbán. “Unfortunately the Islamic State is conquering more and more territories, more and more people are forced to leave their homes because of their atrocities. Therefore if we truly intend to ease the migration pressure on Europe, then we must step up our efforts against the Islamic State,” Szijjártó said.

“Hungary is prepared to do so, and so our contingent of 110 soldiers, who are already in Kurdistan, will from now on take part in training Kurdish Peshmerga fighters alongside their security and protection tasks,” he said. In July this year, 100 Hungarian soldiers joined officers already stationed in Iraq and took over from peace-keepers working in the region.
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http://www.thelocal.de/20151001/mass-violence-erupts-at-hamburg-refugee-home

Mass violence erupts at Hamburg refugee home
Published: 01 Oct 2015 10:03 GMT+02:00

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A mass brawl involving around 200 refugees from Afghanistan and Syria broke out on Wednesday night at an asylum centre in Hamburg which has been beset by problems.

The Max-Bahr Market in Bergedorf in southeast Hamburg has been used as refugee accommodation for less than a week, but has already seen a hunger strike and now a mass brawl.

When 600 refugees moved into the empty market hall on September 27th, there was not a single bed in the building, the Hamburg Morgenpost (MOPO) reported at the time.

Around 100 refugees sat on the footpath outside the building as a mark of protest, with some complaining that the building had not been cleaned.

Parents were angry that there was no separate area designated for them to stay with their children.

Within hours around 100 people had gone on hunger strike, protesting against the poor conditions. Among them was a pregnant woman.

On Sunday there was already sign of tensions developing when police reporting scuffles between 25 refugees, resulting in two men being slightly injured.

In Wednesday night's violence, 200 refugees were involved in the fight, which according to one witness broke out after a disagreement over use of the shower facilities.

Representatives of the fire services told MOPO that some of those involved used iron bars ripped from beds, as Afghan and Syrian refugees fought against each other.

Around 50 police vehicles rushed to the centre to bring the situation under control.

This latest escalation is part of a pattern of violence breaking out at refugee accommodations in recent days.

On Monday in Baden-Württemberg, a large police presence managed to calm an argument between residents of a centre from several different nationalities.

Meanwhile on Sunday in Hesse, a fight between 300 Albanians and 70 Pakistanis led to 14 injuries at a food hall.




Around 100 refugees sat on the footpath outside the building as a mark of protest, with some complaining that the building had not been cleaned.



Why would they care whether it had been cleaned or not? They've left a trail of garbage and human excrement right across Europe for native Europeans to clean up.
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Ftrom Politico:
Socialists step up pressure on Fico and Orbán

Political groups in the European Parliament try to keep members in line on migration.

By Maïa de La Baume

9/30/15, 6:50 PM CET

Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico will travel to Strasbourg next week to defend his recent statements on EU migration policy at a meeting of socialists in the European Parliament, who say they will push to have him expelled from the party if they aren’t satisfied with his explanation.

Gianni Pittella, president of the Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats in the Parliament, said Wednesday that Fico would be expected to “make a few clarifications” on his recent statements, including on refugees.

“I am happy to hear him defend his positions,” Pittella said in an telephone interview.

These include Fico’s claim that his country was “built for Slovaks, not for minorities.” Fico also said he would take the EU to court over the decision by member states earlier this month to relocate 120,000 refugees across Europe — an action taken over the objections of Slovakia and three other countries.

“If Fico doesn’t change his positions, the group will maintain its call to evict him,” Pittella said.

Pittella also called on the center-right European People’s Party group to expel Hungarian leader Viktor Orbán for his actions in response to the refugee crisis.

“I am asking the leaders of the group, Manfred Weber and Joseph Daul: Are Orbán’s actions compatible with values of Christianity and solidarity?” Pittella said.

The EPP, the European Parliament’s biggest political group, includes 12 members from Orbán’s Fidesz’s party. But the group is divided over how to deal with the uncompromising positions taken recently by the Hungarian leader.

Some EPP members, such as Viviane Reding, said they want to punish what they consider the authoritarian policies of Orbán, while others in the party defend him for advocating stronger border patrols.

“We are continuing our discussions with Hungarian MEPs,” said a parliament official, who added that some members of Fidesz had explained the position of the Hungarian government on migration at an EPP group meeting Wednesday.

Pittella said his new call was intended to put additional pressure on the EPP, in order to clarify what it wants to do with its Fidesz members. The S&D group is also hoping to differentiate itself from the EPP on this issue by showing a willingness to discipline one of its own.

Pittella said it was “unjustifiable” that Orbán’s government had built a fence along Hungary’s border with Serbia to block the flow of migrants, and claimed that the country’s treatment of refugees has been “inhumane.”

The socialists’ decision on whether to expel Fico will be taken at the presidency level of the Party of European Socialists (PES), an umbrella group of socialist political parties. The PES is expected to have “a discussion” on Fico’s hardline positions on October 9, a party spokeswoman said.

In a statement issued last week, Fico said the efforts to kick him out of the party were “nonsense.”

“The motion is tabled by a person hailing from the country that has flagrantly violated the Schengen rules. Maybe that’s where the nervousness stems from,” he said.
Hungary, ‘canary in the coal mine’ of EU press

A report calls Hungary the “most egregious practitioner of controlled press.”

By Ginger Hervey

9/29/15, 6:27 PM CET

Press freedom in Europe — and specifically, Hungary — is in danger, according to a report released Tuesday by the Committee to Protect Journalists.

The report states that while the EU maintains an outward commitment to press freedom, safeguards implemented are often cosmetic and offenders are seldom punished.

Case in point, according to the report and to CPJ members, is Viktor Orbán’s Hungary.

Since Orbán’s nationalist Fidesz party took power in 2010, it has been accused by activists and journalists of meddling in newsrooms, imposing taxes and regulations unfairly on media outlets critical of the government, and taking control of the Media Council, which is supposedly independently elected.

According to Kati Marton, a Hungarian-American board member of the CPJ, Orbán’s Hungary is the “most egregious practitioner of controlled press.”

“They are making it virtually impossible for journalists to do their job,” Marton said.

The Hungarian government’s practices have not escaped the notice of the European Commission, which has twice raised the possibility of sanctioning Budapest via Article 7, a clause in the treaty that could suspend a member state’s voting rights at the Commission if it is found in “serious and persistent breach” of treaty principles.

The CPJ said in their report, which was presented in Brussels Tuesday, that Article 7 should be reconsidered in Hungary’s case. Press freedom is the “canary in the coal mine,” according to Marton.

“This is about more than the press,” said Marton, an author, journalist and the widow of former U.S. diplomat Richard Holbrooke. “When a country starts rolling back press freedoms, it never stops there.”

When asked to comment on the CPJ report, the Hungarian Permanent Representation to the EU referred POLITICO to the Venice Commission’s Opinion on Media Legislation of Hungary.

The opinion, released in June, said that while the country had made progress in recent years, it needs to continue to improve the situation of media freedom in the country.

Jean-Paul Marthoz, the Belgian journalist and activist who penned the CPJ report, warned that Hungary’s suppression of the free press was a threat to Europe’s democratic values.

“Hungary is the first ideological attempt to undo the liberal construct of Europe,” said Marthoz. “Orbán has said very clearly that he is against liberal democracy, that his models are Erdoğan or Putin.”

The CPJ made a series of recommendations to EU leaders that would increase accountability among member states, including more openness in negotiations and the creation of a commission that could monitor member states’ compliance to human rights standards. Marthoz told POLITICO he believed a system with this aim could be created within six months, if key leaders cooperate.

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I am, yet again, horrified by how out of touch liberal/leftists are with public opinion on this matter, LL. By colluding with this invasion, they are leaving the door open for the rise of the far Right, IMO - and that never ends well.
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Volunteers are closing down a tent camp in Brussels where they have hosted hundreds of migrants seeking shelter in the European Union and say Belgian authorities need to take over their task.

The camp was set up over a month ago and was used by hundreds of people from war-torn nations like Syria and Iraq who were seeking asylum in Belgium. Vanessa Van Strijthem, an organizer at the camp, said that the volunteers would still have an office nearby where refugees could come for help during the day, but would need to refer them to bunk beds the government has set up in an office tower.

"We're going to keep on fighting but we are only citizens. We need the government to take its responsibility," she said.
Czech Prime Minister Bohuslav Sobotka says his country is opposing any large European Union plan for a permanent compulsory redistribution of asylum-seekers among the bloc's 28 nations.

During a debate on the migrant crisis in the lower house of Parliament on Thursday, Sobotka said: "We're in the middle of a battle over a realistic approach of the entire European Union to the migrant crisis. The Czech Republic will vote against such a proposal. No government would be able to change such a mechanism in the future."

Last week, EU ministers agreed to redistribute 120,000 asylum-seekers in EU member states despite opposition from the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary and Romania.

Slovakia is planning to challenge that. Sobotka said the EU decision was bad but the Czechs would respect it.

Interior Minister Milan Chovanec said Thursday EU ministers will discuss the larger plan for the permanent redistribution of the migrants at their Oct. 8 meeting in Luxembourg.
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Well, the migrant-hugging didn't last long in Brussels, did it? Did it never occur to the volunteers that the migrants were just going to keep coming, that it wasn't just one trainload?
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Post  Lamplighter Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:09 pm

October 1st, 2015
Orbán addresses migration in UN General Assembly
By Hungary Matters


Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán said finding a solution to the current migration crisis has proven difficult because of a lack of consensus on “the nature of the challenge.” Addressing the United Nation’s General Assembly in New York, Orbán said the crisis was not a “refugee crisis”, but a “mass migratory movement” of economic migrants, refugees, asylum-seekers and also “foreign fighters”. Orbán said while estimates of the size of the migrant movements were in a vast range, it was clear that Europe cannot carry the burden alone and would soon “destabilise” unless there was participation at a global level. Orbán called for negotiations with “all major stakeholders of international politics” on a “global quota system” which would distribute migrants to all countries.
Orbán said Hungary felt compassion for people forced to leave their homes and saw them as victims of poor governance and human trafficking. “It is our moral responsibility to give back these people their homes and their country,” he said, adding that migrants shouldn’t be given “a new European life,” but helped to return home. Orbán said that Christians reject anti-Muslim policy and sentiment and stressed that the Muslim faith was not responsible for the causes of migration.
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refugees, asylum-seekers and also “foreign fighters”

I am glad some of the sharper politicians are drawing attention to that - and I can't fault Orban on anything he's saying about this.
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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/10/migrant-its-normal-to-call-swedish-women-whores-among-muslim-migrants-video/

Migrant: It’s “Normal” to Call Swedish Women Whores Among Muslim Migrants (Video)

Jim Hoft Oct 1st, 2015 7:42 am 27 Comments

A migrant in Sweden tells a female news anchor that it is “normal” to call Swedish women “whores” among Muslim migrants.




https://youtu.be/BHNudvjG0Xc
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The local municipality has given Mrs Keller until the end of the year to leave her flat in the southern town of Eschbach.
Mario Schlafke, the town's mayor, says the authorities had no choice.
'The council hasn't taken a frivolous decision,' he told Welt newspaper, it was reported by The Daily Telegraph.
'The alternative would have been to set up beds in the gym.



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Post  lily Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:59 pm

That's right.  Throw your own citizens out of their homes so you can put aliens in.  Disgraceful.  There are NO excuses for that.
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Post  Lamplighter Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:46 am

http://www.dw.com/en/hungary-this-is-a-creeping-dictatorship/a-18752268

http://www.politics.hu/20151001/reuters-hungarys-minorities-bear-brunt-of-anti-migrant-rhetoric/

I see it's 'bash Hungary' time again. If all they claimed was true then no way would I stay here. Orban, whatever I might normally think of him, is really rattling peoples' cages, talking sense and being listened to by quite a few other countries' leaders in Europe. I am for the EU, I would regret its demise as at least up to now it has stopped war in Europe since the end of WW2. That's all the comments I will make as I know others disagree with me. LL
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