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Post  bb1 Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:10 pm

Any fool could see that coming, Lily, which raises BIG questions about the motives of the ruling elite that have caused this.
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Post  lily Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:26 pm

I agree with you Bonny.  There must be loads of money in it for them.

I saw this article which is very helpful about Saudi Arabia.  It does help a lot.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alastair-crooke/isis-wahhabism-saudi-arabia_b_5717157.html
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Post  bb1 Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:08 am

I would love to know why the Saudis are allowed to do exactly as they please, Lily, right down to their revolting 'princes' and their use of drugs and hookers when in the West - or treating Western women as hookers. If any country should have been attacked after 9/11, it was Saudi - instead, the Bin Laden family was given special privileges to leave the US unhindered.

Now reports are coming in that, in the course of their many atrocities in the almost-ignored Yemen conflict, the Saudis have bombed an MCF hospital...stop me if that sounds familiar....
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Post  bb1 Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:09 am

http://www.thelocal.de/20151027/bavaria-tells-merkel-stop-refugee-flow-from-austria

Bavaria tells Merkel: stop refugee flow from Austria
Published: 27 Oct 2015 08:36 GMT+01:00

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Bavarian leader Horst Seehofer warned Chancellor Angela Merkel on Tuesday that unless she finds a way to limit the number of refugees arriving via Austria by Sunday, he will consider acting alone.

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"If I'm not successful [in getting an answer from Berlin] then we will have to consider what options for action we have," Seehofer told the Passauer Neue Presse – implicitly reiterating his threat to bring in undefined "emergency defence" measures if the federal government doesn't help.

Seehofer added that Merkel's top priority ought to be limiting what he said were uncontrolled flows of people from Austria into Germany across the Bavarian border.

"It's the Chancellor's job to speak with Austria," he said, adding that the two national governments had decided to introduce the much criticized 'open-borders' policy together.

Austria's failure to warn Bavaria of large groups of refugees arriving at or being brought to the border was straining relations, Seehofer said.

"This behaviour by Austria burdens our neighbourly relationship. You can't and mustn't treat one another like this," he said.

The Bavarian premier can count on the support of a large proportion of his Christian Social Union (CSU), the Bavarian conservative party that is a historical ally of Merkel's Christian Democratic Union (CDU).

MPs from the Free State have been among some of the loudest voices criticizing the Chancellor's politics in recent weeks, stirring dissatisfaction among her own ranks.

"If our asylum policy isn't corrected," Seehofer said, then "the existence of the CDU and CSU" is threatened.

Merkel has made some steps towards placating the Bavarian premier, including a package of toughened asylum laws passed recently and an admission on Monday that her policy had been "anything but perfect".



So much for Ode to Joy - Merkel is even managing to split Germany itself.
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Post  lily Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:47 pm

It's time to find a safe place somewhere in the ME and ship the lot of them back.  

They would be happier too because the Saudis could fund them instead of demanding the same from Europeans.  They are known to be very charitable to their kin. Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:50 pm

And Saudi has that huge permanent tented city, and lots of space. And lots of money. And lots of mosques. Really, what's not to like about Saudi Arabia as a new home for all these 'refugees'?
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Post  lily Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:18 pm

Yes indeed, Bonny.  It's perfect for them.  I cannot understand why K.S.A. has not already brought them over there.
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Post  bb1 Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:37 pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/muslim-preacher-jailed-after-cops-6716460#ICID=sharebar_twitter

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Muslim preacher jailed after cops find invoice for £18 MILLION of ammunition on his mobile phone
17:25, 27 OCT 2015 UPDATED 17:25, 27 OCT 2015
BY ANNA DUBUIS , EMILY PENNINK
Abdurraouf Eshati, 29, was sentenced to six years in prison after he pleaded guilty to terrorism and immigration offences

Hungary is new hot spot on migrant route into EU - Part 2 - Page 8 Abdurraouf-Eshati

An imam who was found in the back of a lorry in Dover has been jailed after police discovered an invoice for £18million worth of ammunition on his mobile phone.

Abdurraouf Eshati, 29, was sentenced to six years in prison today after he pleaded guilty to terrorism and immigration offences.

Eshati, who lived in a mosque in Wrexham where he sometimes led prayers, was one of 20 people discovered in a lorry heading for France on November 30 last year.

On his mobile phone, police found a $28.5million (£18.6million) invoice from an arms supplier for the sale and delivery of 1,100 tonnes of ammunition to Libya.

His phone also held a document about chartering a cargo jet for $250,000 (£163,000) for use in the North African country.

Police also discovered a number of false documents which Eshati had given to an immigration tribunal in 2012 and he was subsequently charged for immigration offences.

Eshati, who had 1,000 euros in cash in his luggage, also had images on his phone of activists from the militia group Ansar Al Sharia and a beheading.

On his arrest, Eshati told police he had been in Britain since 2009 on a visa and later as an asylum seeker.

He said his father had been a senior figure in the Gaddafi regime and was now in prison in Tripoli while his two brothers had been murdered.

However, this was a false claim and it later emerged that his brother was alive and well while his father was recovering from gall bladder surgery in Tunisia.

Investigations in Italy revealed that Eshati had been caught up in a determined attempt to get arms into Libya in plain contravention of the UN embargo.

Eshati's role was to translate the documents for a friend and senior Libyan Army officer - referred to as ET - who brokered the deal in Italy.



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Post  lily Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:53 pm

I don't know about anyone else, but I think that the jail sentence is way too lenient.
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Post  bb1 Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:59 pm

I do too, Lily, especially as he will no doubt start screeching about his Yuman Rites and be out in three.
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Post  Lamplighter Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:08 pm

bb1 wrote:I do too, Lily, especially as he will no doubt start screeching about his Yuman Rites and be out in three.
He pleaded guilty which immediately lessens the sentence imposed at his trial. Had he pleaded not guilty and been found guilty then he would have got a heavier sentence. LL
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Post  lily Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:17 pm

Do they have to wait until after he has done who knows how much damage to people for that to happen?
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Post  bb1 Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:30 pm

Shotguns have 'virtually sold out' in Austria as citizens rush to buy arms amid fears of a massive influx of migrants, dealers claim
There are now thought to be estimated 900,000 firearms in Austrian homes
Police say around 70,000 guns have been sold this year alone in Austria
Dealers say shotguns have almost sold out because you don't need permit
Women are driving the sales rush as fears grow amid influx of refugees


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Europe as we knew it is finished. Well done, Merkel.
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Post  lily Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:36 pm

This is a dreadful time for the world. Crying or Very sad
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Post  bb1 Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:41 pm

IMO, the global elites thought they'd turned Europeans into good little sheeple with the Ode to Joy, stuff, Lily. They didn't expect them to react to this trashing of social democracies and civilisation with everything from street demos to arson. And now shotguns.
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Post  lily Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:08 pm

Just goes to show how offensively out of touch they are with the awful plebs. mad
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Post  Lamplighter Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:05 am

Németh: ending wars in Syria and Iraq crucial for global security
By Hungary Matters October 28th, 2015

Ending the civil wars in Syria and Iraq is crucial not just in terms of solving the migrant crisis, but also for global security, Zsolt Németh, head of Hungary's parliament foreign affairs committee said. The use of military force in resolving the conflicts in Iraq and Syria is unavoidable, Németh told a press conference after a meeting of the foreign affairs committee, adding that combatting the Islamic State militant group, which he called the “epicentre” of the conflict, is crucial for ending it. The committee was briefed on the current situation in Iraq and Syria.

Németh said it was important to note that aside from the US-led global coalition to counter IS, Russia is also involved in the fight against the militant group. He said it was essential that the coalition and Russia find common ground, as otherwise Russia’s involvement “will only complicate the situation”. Németh stressed that the long-term solution in Iraq and Syria has to be a political one. On the topic of the fate of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, Németh said it would have to be decided by the Syrian people. Németh also said Syria and Iraq were mired in a humanitarian crisis, adding that some 10 million people have been forced to leave their homes.
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Post  bb1 Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:10 am

Unfortunately, it was the 'US-led coalition' that has caused the whole damned mess. With a great deal of help from the Saudis.
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Post  Lamplighter Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:14 am

Austria to build Slovenia border fence

Published: 28 Oct 2015 08:59 The Local Austria

Austria will build a fence along its border with fellow EU member Slovenia to slow down the migrant flow, Interior Minister Johanna Mikl-Leitner said on Wednesday.

Both countries are part of the passport-free Schengen zone and have been key transit countries for tens of thousands of refugees and migrants desperately seeking to reach northern Europe via the Balkans.

"This is about ensuring an orderly, controlled entry into our country, not about shutting down the border," she told public broadcaster Ö1.

Mikl-Leitner, a member of the conservative ÖVP party, added that the situation risked escalating as people were forced to wait in freezing temperatures for hours before being allowed to cross from one nation into another.

"We know that in recent days and weeks individual groups of migrants have become more impatient, aggressive and emotional. If groups of people push from behind, with children and women stuck in-between, you need stable, massive measures," she said.

On Tuesday, Bavaria's state premier blasted Austria for waving through thousands of refugees to Germany without informing local authorities.

Previously, Austrian ministers had avoided using the word 'fence' - talking instead about the need for "special structural measures" on the border. Last week, Mikl-Leitner drew strong criticism from opposition members for saying that it was time for the EU to "build fortress Europe".

But Defence Minister Gerald Klug, of the Social Democrats, told Ö1 radio that he supports the idea of a fence, which is necessary "in order to properly control the refugees" but that "we must not lose sight of humanity". He added that Hungary's razor-sharp barbed wire fences were not the solution.

The Secretary-General of Amnesty Austria, Heinz Patzelt, told Ö1 that fences are "a symbol of a lack of solidarity" - and that barriers would not deter refugees from trying to enter Austria.

Mikl-Leitner said in a statement sent to the media that the fence would be "solid and stretch several kilometres left and right of the border crossing", but did not give a date for when construction would begin.

She also said that 200 police officers would be trained to become special border police, and that Austria needs an additional 2,000 officers as the force is stretched to its limits.  
Austrian minister calls for 'fortress Europe'

Published: 23 Oct 2015 09:37
Austria’s Interior Minister Johanna Mikl-Leitner has called for “a fortress Europe” to protect the EU’s external borders as thousands of refugees continue to enter Austria from Slovenia.

She made the comments after a visit to Spielfeld in Styria, where the situation has become chaotic after the arrival of thousands of refugees and migrants. On Thursday police were forced to remove barricades at a refugee camp in Spielfeld in an effort to relieve pressure, allowing hundreds of people to spill into the surrounding area.

Slovenia says over 12,600 migrants and refugees have entered its territory over the past 24 hours. They want to travel onwards to Austria and Germany.

Locals in Spielfeld, a community of just 1,000 people, have complained that they will not be able to cope with the expected 60,000 refugees who will arrive over the course of the next few days.

On Thursday evening, around 2,000 refugees were waiting in a transit area at the border crossing. Police chief Josef Klamminger said that shuttle buses will be in continual use, to take the refugees to a registration centre and provide them with emergency supplies and first aid.

He told ORF television that the situation in Spielfeld is more extreme than on the Hungarian border crossing a few weeks ago, as “Germany’s restrictions are now affecting Austria and the entire Balkan route, and we are left in a kind of sandwich position.”

Around 900 police officers and soldiers are on duty to try and keep the situation under control.
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The Secretary-General of Amnesty Austria, Heinz Patzelt, told Ö1 that fences are "a symbol of a lack of solidarity" - and that barriers would not deter refugees from trying to enter Austria
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Empty, meaningless words from some of the very people that are encouraging this invasion - and no, they are not 'refugees', they are economic migrants. They ceased to be refugees when they chose to march into Europe from the safety of the refugee camps.
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Post  Lamplighter Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:36 am

I had an email yesterday from one of my friends in the UK, worried about the situation as regards my safety - I am off to Vienna mid November. I told him that no-one under this sky is stopping me from going home. I will not be buying a gun, knife or pepper spray, I will be buying Sachertorte, Glühwein, stollen and all the things that make Christmas for me and my friends. I will visit all the places I do every time I go home, I will eat bratwurst in soft white rolls with a generous dollop of mustard, drink copious cups of expresso coffee, spend time wandering round the Christmas markets, spend a day at the Prater and ride the Riesenrad, go to the operetta, shop for spices, herbs and exotic foods in the Naschmarkt, visit the Zoo at Schonbrunn. Oh, and I nearly forgot, watch The Third Man for the umpteeth time at the Burg Kino in the Opernring. Lamplighter
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Post  lily Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:53 pm

This is a Youtube taken two days ago in Germany.  This is the future.  Eek
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Post  lily Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:58 pm

bb1 wrote:Unfortunately, it was the 'US-led coalition' that has caused the whole damned mess. With a great deal of help from the Saudis.

How very true.  mad
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Post  bb1 Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:04 pm

Fury after Juncker claims EU is 'at limit of budgetary capacity' because of migrant crisis and calls on member states to raise more money
Head of EU Commission says the €150billion budget was now 'too small'
He also accused governments not paying billions in aid they had pledged



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You and Merkel asked them in - you pay. fingerwave
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