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Post  crazytony Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:16 pm

Perhaps they will be made to serve their suspended sentences?

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Post  bb1 Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:16 pm

http://justice4mccannfam.5forum.biz/t3734-goncalo-amaral-and-paulo-pereira-cristovao-accused-of-attacks-on-leonor-cipriano

Re: Gonçalo Amaral and Paulo Pereira Cristóvão accused of attacks on Leonor Cipriano
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Sorry Chris, I think that's a glitch of CdM.
Imo it's an old article.

She was wearing that dress (and that handbag and sunglasses) on the day they got the verdict. May 200


Eh? The hearing was LAST WEEKEND; the pic of Gonc and Cristovao may be older, but this only happened a few days ago.

As some have known for a few days Wink
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Post  bb1 Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:17 pm

crazytony wrote:Perhaps they will be made to serve their suspended sentences?

That's what I am wondering, Tony. I know this is disciplinary, not criminal, but if new information comes out, if they start ratting on each other, I could see new charges being laid.
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Post  sans_souci Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:20 pm

bb1 wrote:http://justice4mccannfam.5forum.biz/t3734-goncalo-amaral-and-paulo-pereira-cristovao-accused-of-attacks-on-leonor-cipriano

Re: Gonçalo Amaral and Paulo Pereira Cristóvão accused of attacks on Leonor Cipriano
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Sorry Chris, I think that's a glitch of CdM.
Imo it's an old article.

She was wearing that dress (and that handbag and sunglasses) on the day they got the verdict. May 200


Eh? The hearing was LAST WEEKEND; the pic of Gonc and Cristovao may be older, but this only happened a few days ago.

As some have known for a few days Wink

If true, excellent news. But I am afriad I have my doubts. Would love to see conformation!

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Post  crazytony Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:22 pm

bb1 wrote:http://justice4mccannfam.5forum.biz/t3734-goncalo-amaral-and-paulo-pereira-cristovao-accused-of-attacks-on-leonor-cipriano

Re: Gonçalo Amaral and Paulo Pereira Cristóvão accused of attacks on Leonor Cipriano
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Sorry Chris, I think that's a glitch of CdM.
Imo it's an old article.

She was wearing that dress (and that handbag and sunglasses) on the day they got the verdict. May 200


Eh? The hearing was LAST WEEKEND; the pic of Gonc and Cristovao may be older, but this only happened a few days ago.

As some have known for a few days Wink

PJ pede suspensão para investigadores

A Unidade Disciplinar da Polícia Judiciária pede a suspensão de Paulo Pereira Cristóvão, Gonçalo Amaral e três inspectores da PJ pelo alegado envolvimento no caso de agressões a Leonor Cipriano, condenada pela morte e ocultação do cadáver da filha, Joana, em 2004.
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The date showing below the story is December 11 2011

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Post  bb1 Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:24 pm

Quite, Tony - one or two knew about this BEFORE it appeared in CdM.
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Post  crazytony Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:25 pm

And they also mention they were unable to reach Amaral. So in my opinion they have used an old picture for the story.

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Post  bb1 Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:28 pm

Yes, Tony, I would say they just dug out an old photo. Do anyone actually think I would post a story like that if I didn't know it was correct?

It's been known for a few days; it has only just got into CdM.
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Post  rhodes Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:30 pm

poor amaral.............wonder if someone will come visit HIM at Christmas and beat the shoite out of him pray with him like he did with Joana's uncle?
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Post  crazytony Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:34 pm

bb1 wrote:Yes, Tony, I would say they just dug out an old photo. Do anyone actually think I would post a story like that if I didn't know it was correct?

It's been known for a few days; it has only just got into CdM.
It is genuine Bonny.

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Post  bb1 Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:36 pm

I know it's genuine, Tony, I first heard about it from a totally different source, nothing at all to do with CdM.
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Post  crazytony Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:38 pm

bb1 wrote:I know it's genuine, Tony, I first heard about it from a totally different source, nothing at all to do with CdM.
All folks have to do is stick Amaral's name in the paper's search bar and they will get the same story.

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Post  crazytony Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:48 pm

Do you know what so good about this latest news?
It isn't a lawyer who has brought the case; it is his own Law Enforcement.
Brilliant!!!!!!!

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Post  crazytony Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:55 pm

Here is Amaral's Police Career in a small collage


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Post  bb1 Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:58 pm

I suspect that the PJ will take action against him over the diaries, too, Tony - they must be sick to death of the mud that gets thrown at them because of him and his cronies.
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Post  crazytony Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:03 am

bb1 wrote:I suspect that the PJ will take action against him over the diaries, too, Tony - they must be sick to death of the mud that gets thrown at them because of him and his cronies.
He hasn't exactly set a good example, has he?
It all reflects back on the Judiciary; and, any decent cop isn't going to be happy about that, now are they?

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Post  Pedro Silva Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:38 am

it´s not a glitch, see cdm link with translation above.


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Post  lily Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:22 am

At last, Gonc's past is finally catching up with him.

Just look at the unconscionable pain he has caused people like the McCanns and the Ciprianos. How many others have suffered at the hands of this bad cop?

It has taken its time but it couldn't have happened to a more deserving bad apple.

Portugal's reputation has taken quite a beating because of Gonc and his chums. They must be looking forward to moving on to a better future.

Had he been a decent cop, both Joana and Madeleine may have been found. What a a travesty. mad
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Post  Sabot Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:34 am

Pedro Silva wrote:it´s not a glitch, see cdm link with translation above.



Thanks, Pedro. I nearly had heart failure there for a minute.

As for the three inspectors, it sounds as though The PJ know they were guilty even if it wasn't proven to the satisfaction of the Court. It is always easier to cast doubt on a witness statement than it is to cast doubt on written evidence, especially if the witness has got a bag over her head at the time.
Amaral and the other convicted officer were found guilty on written evidence which could not be refuted. Although I suspect that the Court would have done so if they could have gotten away with it.
Not sure what The PJ can do about the other three but it is possible that the rules of evidence are not so stringent at a Disciplinary Hearing. A bit like OJ Simpson and the Civil Case that he lost.
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Post  bb1 Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:52 am

It is entirely possible that someone has ratted them out, and that the PJ can now prove to their own satisfaction just exactly what happened, Sabot.

Glitch my a@se, it would scarcely have been known about a few days ago if it had been a glitch, would it?

It was, in fact, awaiting confirmation before it was posted.
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Post  Sabot Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:49 pm


I hope someone has ratted them out. It's a disgrace that has tarred the entire PJ with the same brush. Who would trust any of them now?
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Post  Pedro Silva Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:11 pm

You welcome Sabot. I agree with this:

“Do you know what so good about this latest news?
It isn't a lawyer who has brought the case; it is his own Law Enforcement.
Brilliant!!!!!!!”

“I suspect that the PJ will take action against him over the diaries, too, Tony - they must be sick to death of the mud that gets thrown at them because of him and his cronies.”

“He hasn't exactly set a good example, has he?
It all reflects back on the Judiciary; and, any decent cop isn't going to be happy about that, now are they?”

“At last, Gonc's past is finally catching up with him.

Just look at the unconscionable pain he has caused people like the McCanns and the Ciprianos. How many others have suffered at the hands of this bad cop?

It has taken its time but it couldn't have happened to a more deserving bad apple.

Portugal's reputation has taken quite a beating because of Gonc and his chums. They must be looking forward to moving on to a better future.

Had he been a decent cop, both Joana and Madeleine may have been found. What a a travesty.”

“It is entirely possible that someone has ratted them out, and that the PJ can now prove to their own satisfaction just exactly what happened, Sabot.

Glitch my a@se, it would scarcely have been known about a few days ago if it had been a glitch, would it?

It was, in fact, awaiting confirmation before it was posted.”

“I hope someone has ratted them out. It's a disgrace that has tarred the entire PJ with the same brush. Who would trust any of them now?”

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Post  lily Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:14 pm

Thanks Pedro. thumbsup
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Post  crazytony Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:37 pm

Glitch my a@se, it would scarcely have been known about a few days ago if it had been a glitch, would it?
Glitch? Has anyone seen a report of Amaral shouting "it didn't happen" at the story?
Has the paper in question retracted and printed an apology?
If that story was a glitch or fabrication, would the renta mouth of Portugal stay silent?

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Post  crazytony Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:43 pm

And just one little obvious. Why, if it was false, is Morais not screaming her head off?

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