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Post  lily Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:35 pm

Who can blame you, and anyone else, for not wanting that?
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Who do they expect to clean up after them? They're the ones throwing their sh*t all over the place and turning every corner of Europe they invade into a rubbish tip:

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Post  Lamplighter Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:55 pm

They are turning Calais into a mirro image of where they came from. LL
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Post  bb1 Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:08 pm

And then they wonder why people have little sympathy for them!

The only genuine refugees in among them are, IMO, the Syrian women and children, and I have no problem with them being helped to places of safety.

But these hundreds and thousands of perfectly able-bodied men, the very ones that should be sorting their own countries out, are another matter entirely, as far as I am concerned. They're cowards, apart from anything else - why should anyone help them when they have run away and left their own families?

This business of just throwing their garbage all over the place and expecting someone else to clear up their mess disgusts me.
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Post  lily Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:19 pm

It certainly gives a person that wonderful warm and fuzzy feeling reading about this.
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Post  bb1 Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:24 pm

There is trouble breaking out all over Europe because of these people, Lily - not in the UK so far, as Cameron has kept the doors locked.

But even the handful that have got through have managed to make pests of themselves here because they've been put in normal hotels instead of detention till they're removed.

The far Right is rising all over Europe - something no-one ever thought they would see again.
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Post  lily Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:42 pm

This seems like an invasion? It is stunning to think of that happening again, Bonny.
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Post  bb1 Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:19 pm

Thing is, anyone that looks at the financial blogs can see a massive crash is coming, Lily - a lot of Europe is struggling already.

Who is going to house and feed these tens of thousands of uneducated, unskilled moslem men when the bottom falls out of national economies? It's not as if they even like Europeans to begin with - the potential for real trouble and violence is just about limitless.
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Post  lily Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:04 pm

I certainly cannot argue with that Bonny. It is scary and is only a question of when?
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So, we have to pay for clearing France's mess? I suppose it's still considerably cheaper than letting any of them in.
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Post  bb1 Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:17 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/11815293/German-border-control-plans-raise-hopes-for-EU-reform.html

German border control plans raise hopes for EU reform
Germany suggests that it is considering bringing back border controls to cope with migrant crisis in boost for David Cameron's EU reform plans

David Cameron's plans to reform the European Union have been boosted after Germany said for the first time that it is prepared to reintroduce border controls to deal with the migrant crisis.
Germany warned that the Schengen zone, which allows passport-free travel across mainland Europe, "cannot exist" if other EU states continue to fail to take their share of asylum seekers.
The prospect of border controls could benefit Mr Cameron's attempts to reform the European Union as it would require major treaty change.

Mr Cameron has said that treaty chance will be needed to help deter welfare tourists from coming to Britain by stop EU migrants claiming benefits for the first four years they are in the UK.
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Stephen Booth, co-director of Open Europe think tank, said: "The mounting migration crisis inside and outside the EU’s borders has the potential to trigger a major rethink about not only asylum policy but policies on free movement within the EU itself.
"While this is all speculative at this stage, after months of the UK being told that EU free movement is not up for discussion, we could see growing political pressure elsewhere in the EU for change on this front.
"This could provide the Government with a more fluid environment in which to make its demands for stricter rules on EU migrants’ access to welfare, which would seem pale in comparison.”
It came as Theresa May, the Home Secretary, warned that the migration crisis could spread from Calais to other ferry ports.

She said that Britain will help pay for repatriation flights and a new asylum camp, as the head of the Border Force warned that migrants are being smuggled into the UK to become criminals.
Thomas de Maiziere, the Germany interior minister and a close ally of Angela Merkel, conducted a series of interviews in which he raised the prospect of border controls.
Under an EU rule known as the Dublin regulation, refugees are required to claim asylum in the state in which they first arrive.
However, some states such as Italy and Greece have seen such large numbers of migrants that they have opted not to enforce the rule.
Mr de Maiziere said: "I’m in favor of free borders, I’m a committed European, but if other European states don’t adhere to the law and the Dublin system no longer works, then we need another system that works. Control-free borders cannot exist in the long term without a real European asylum policy."

Dominic Grieve, the Conservative MP and former Attorney General, said: "There is no doubt that one of the difficulties the UK has faced historically is the reluctance of other European states to enact treaty change.
"If for any reason there is going to be a need for treaty change, it will undoubtedly provide an opportunity for the UK to argue that treaty change will be easier to achieve than our partners have suggested.
"Clearly Schengen is under huge pressure because of the ability to move across borders. Germany is picking up the principle number of refugees. It is a very serious crisis. That may be an argument for a major rethink at a European level."



Germany could always try NOT rolling out the red carpet for them, and then whining when other European nations refuse to do likewise.
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Post  lily Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:07 pm

This sounds so familiar to me....
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Post  bb1 Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:21 am

http://news.sky.com/story/1539433/tear-gas-fired-on-macedonia-border-migrants

Tear Gas Fired On Macedonia Border Migrants

Riot police have fired tear gas and stun grenades as thousands of people try to enter Macedonia from Greece.

There were several attempts to charge officers by angry people among a crowd of 3,000 from the Middle East, Africa and Asia.

They had spent the night in the open in a no man's land between the two countries after Macedonia sealed its southern border to migrants and refugees.

At least eight people were injured in the confrontation earlier and one youngster was seen bleeding.

A state of emergency has been declared by Macedonia because of the number of people wanting to head north to Europe.

oils of razor wire have also been spread over rail tracks used to cross on foot to Macedonia from Greece, which has seen a surge in the number of people trying to reach its islands from Turkey.

Authorities in Greece, particularly on the tourist hotspot islands, have been overwhelmed by the influx - some 160,000 have arrived in Greece so far this year.

Others have walked to Bulgaria from Turkey before making their way through Macedonia or Serbia before heading north to the EU.

Some 39,000 migrants, mostly Syrians, have been registered as passing through Macedonia in the past month - twice as many as the previous month.

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Sadly, I fear it's just a matter of time till bullets start flying.

It's a bit different from the States, Lily, because apart from the German and Swedish governments, and the predictable handwringing moonbats, no-one actually wants these people in Europe.

The latest scam seems to be to claim to be a 'Syrian doctor' who has been forced to flee - in which case, Syria must have had more doctors than any other nation on earth.

Naturally, these 'doctors' have always destroyed their papers.
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This business of littering every place they descend on and then leaving it for the locals to clean up beggars belief.
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Post  lily Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:18 pm

My goodness.  How disgraceful...... 

Er....has no one said what a shame for these poor men?  Having to trek through miles of garbage they have thrown?  Probably now infested with rats and who knows what else?

They are probably in praise of equality?  Spread Third World around?

They are such angry men......and yes, you are correct, Bonny.  It's a question of when not if.
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Post  bb1 Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:55 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/naziinspired-antiimmigration-group-becomes-swedens-most-popular-party-10465862.html

Nazi-inspired' anti-immigration group becomes Sweden's most popular party

A far-right, anti-immigration party has become Sweden’s most popular party, according to an opinion poll.

The Sweden Democrats are now supported by 25.5 per cent of voters, the YouGov poll for Metro newspaper suggests.

This makes them more popular than the Social Democrats, who are currently in power, with 23.4 per cent of voter support, and the centre-right Moderates with 21 per cent.

Tommy Nilsson, party manager for southern Sweden, said the poll was a “tremendous breakthrough” for the party.

He told the Telegraph: “There’s too much immigration and too many beggars from Eastern Europe. People are starting to realise that this is a serious problem for Sweden.”


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Interesting to read the comments, again, on what is supposedly a liberal-left paper. There is so much trouble coming in Europe over this.
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Post  lily Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:51 am

I dread to think what will be ahead, Bonny.  No good, that's for sure.
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Post  bb1 Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:21 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/1540321/refugee-misery-continues-in-macedonia

Syrian Fatima Hamido, 23, was among those who had slept outside in the rain with nothing to eat, saying: "In this Europe, animals are sleeping in beds and we sleep in the rain."

Saeed, 32, from Syria said of the blocked border: "We know this was not Macedonia and the Macedonian police. This was the European Union. Please tell Brussels we are coming, no matter what."


I expect the owners of the 'animals' had worked to pay for that shelter, and didn't just march into someone else's house and steal it.

Coming no matter what? This is going to end horribly.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dresden-riots-protesters-in-germany-attack-refugee-buses-shouting-foreigners-out-10467287.html

Dresden riots: Protesters in Germany attack refugee buses shouting 'foreigners out'

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Up to 1,000 protesters have clashed with police in eastern Germany in riots reportedly sparked by the arrival of 250 migrants.

Police said protesters shouting "foreigners out" and carrying banners against the "asylum flood" threw bottles and stones at busloads of asylum seekers arriving in Heidenau, near Dresden.

At least 31 officers were hurt in violent scuffles as police used tear gas to disperse crowds.



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Post  lily Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:40 pm

You could never have seen that one coming.......
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Post  bb1 Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:20 pm

It's just a matter of time, IMO, before there's an incident that is going to set many European capitals ablaze, Lily.

If that jihadist had managed to slaughter everyone on that train, that would probably have done it. Everyone in the elite seems to be forgetting that Europeans haven't suddenly decided to become pacifist appeasers, the squabbling nations have been behaving because the alternative is worse.

Just look at history to see what Europeans (and I include the UK in this) are capable of when they get angry.
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Post  lily Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:47 pm

Oh yes.  Is it just me or does this whole issue seem organized?

I read a comment in one of the links which said this.

Why is no-one asking all these people why they are trying to get away from Turkey?  What is about Turkey that makes them want to leave a safe, self-sufficient haven where farmers can harvest two crops a year; where it is a 'secular' but majority Muslim state with more mosques than one can count; where there is universal education and a very high literacy rate; where all the people I've ever met there are welcoming and hospitable; where the sun shines for at least eight months of the year; where there is space for people to settle.  
Oh, perhaps, it might be that there are no universal benefits paid by the state out of the taxes and on the back labour of those already there who've fought and died for democracy and a half way decent standard of living already.
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Post  bb1 Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:50 pm

Or Sunnis can go to Saudi and Shia to Iran- oh, but they have that odd thing about expecting people to work for a living, too....
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Post  lily Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:58 pm

That is right, Bonny.  What a dreadful thing to expect able bodied people to do that! 

No wonder they want to go to places where they can legally take from those who work their tails off.....
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