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The media will tear her to shreds once this gets around, Tony - and she wants to forget any greedy idea she may have that she is going to get $$$$$$$$$$ out of the McCanns or anyone else.
She would do well to read up on what happened to the vile David Irving:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Irving
Irving's reputation as an historian was widely discredited after he brought an unsuccessful libel case against the American historian Deborah Lipstadt and Penguin Books.[3] The court found that Irving was an active Holocaust denier, antisemite, and racist, who "associates with right-wing extremists who promote neo-Nazism,"[4] and that he had "for his own ideological reasons persistently and deliberately misrepresented and manipulated historical evidence."[4][5]
It's worth reading the whole thing - just change 'historian' to 'profiler'....
Not only did Irving lose the case, but in light of the evidence presented at the trial a number of his works that had previously escaped serious scrutiny were brought to public attention.
He also made a nuisance of himself in Austria and ended up in jail.
She would do well to read up on what happened to the vile David Irving:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Irving
Irving's reputation as an historian was widely discredited after he brought an unsuccessful libel case against the American historian Deborah Lipstadt and Penguin Books.[3] The court found that Irving was an active Holocaust denier, antisemite, and racist, who "associates with right-wing extremists who promote neo-Nazism,"[4] and that he had "for his own ideological reasons persistently and deliberately misrepresented and manipulated historical evidence."[4][5]
It's worth reading the whole thing - just change 'historian' to 'profiler'....
Not only did Irving lose the case, but in light of the evidence presented at the trial a number of his works that had previously escaped serious scrutiny were brought to public attention.
He also made a nuisance of himself in Austria and ended up in jail.
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Her suing isn't going to happen at all, Tony. She is a public figure in the States, as you know, so......... no chance.
As for her reputation in the UK...... if she is planning on going to Rothley, she should look again at what happened to the Hounders. Regarding Portugal, well I'm sure it will give her career a really good boost when it is reported that she is there to support a convicted liar, in the torture of the mother of a missing girl, during the libel trial of another missing child.
As for her reputation in the UK...... if she is planning on going to Rothley, she should look again at what happened to the Hounders. Regarding Portugal, well I'm sure it will give her career a really good boost when it is reported that she is there to support a convicted liar, in the torture of the mother of a missing girl, during the libel trial of another missing child.
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Oh, FFS! Now she's added this comment to her puff piece:
Pat Brown said...
Thanks, Anon. There is a lot at stake here in the arena of missing and murdered children. There has been a heartwarming rise in folks who care about crimes against children, but, there is also an increase of guilty people and criminal defense lawyers using the media as a tool to galvanize groups to protest their innocence, sway juries, and make huge sums of money through donations, television appearances, the sale of photos, books and movies. These people also make us skeptical of innocent parents whose children really WERE abducted and women who really WERE assaulted or kidnapped (as opposed to those seeking attention like Jennifer Wilbanks, the runaway bride or that lady in Canada who threw acid in her own face to become famous).
If free speech is shut down and those who questions high profile "victims" in the media can't speak up, then imposters will have free reign.
I don't know which category the McCanns fall into because there is not proof that they or anyone else is responsible for the disappearance of Madeleine. However, free speech allows us to analyze and discuss crime elements and behaviors and consider the possibilities. The McCanns have done so themselves, over and over, on television, on the Internet, and in Kate's book. They have theories as to who might have done something to Madeleine and how the PJ handled the case. If they have the right to free speech, so should other people.
Excuse me? This is clearly a job for BIG LETTERS.
THE MCCANNS ARE THE PARENTS OF MADELEINE MCCANN
THEY WANT TO FIND THEIR DAUGHTER
THAT IS WHY THEY APPEAR ON TV
I have decided I almost hope she ISN'T pulling one of her publicity stunts. She pushes this, her career, such as it is, is finished - in the States, too.
What is wrong with these people that they cannot grasp that IT IS NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS?
She has truly, genuinely disgusted me today, she is nothing but a vulture.
Pat Brown said...
Thanks, Anon. There is a lot at stake here in the arena of missing and murdered children. There has been a heartwarming rise in folks who care about crimes against children, but, there is also an increase of guilty people and criminal defense lawyers using the media as a tool to galvanize groups to protest their innocence, sway juries, and make huge sums of money through donations, television appearances, the sale of photos, books and movies. These people also make us skeptical of innocent parents whose children really WERE abducted and women who really WERE assaulted or kidnapped (as opposed to those seeking attention like Jennifer Wilbanks, the runaway bride or that lady in Canada who threw acid in her own face to become famous).
If free speech is shut down and those who questions high profile "victims" in the media can't speak up, then imposters will have free reign.
I don't know which category the McCanns fall into because there is not proof that they or anyone else is responsible for the disappearance of Madeleine. However, free speech allows us to analyze and discuss crime elements and behaviors and consider the possibilities. The McCanns have done so themselves, over and over, on television, on the Internet, and in Kate's book. They have theories as to who might have done something to Madeleine and how the PJ handled the case. If they have the right to free speech, so should other people.
Excuse me? This is clearly a job for BIG LETTERS.
THE MCCANNS ARE THE PARENTS OF MADELEINE MCCANN
THEY WANT TO FIND THEIR DAUGHTER
THAT IS WHY THEY APPEAR ON TV
I have decided I almost hope she ISN'T pulling one of her publicity stunts. She pushes this, her career, such as it is, is finished - in the States, too.
What is wrong with these people that they cannot grasp that IT IS NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS?
She has truly, genuinely disgusted me today, she is nothing but a vulture.
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You all remember Peter Van Sant and Joe Moura, don't you?
They did a documentary in Portugal about Madeleine
They did a documentary in Portugal about Madeleine
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"There has been a heartwarming rise in folks who care about crimes against children."
I think she means the bunch of vicious cretins who get their jollies making up trash about the Mothers of Missing Children without a scrap of Evidence. Her being one of the leading lights.
Heartwarming my eye. They make me feel ill.
I think she means the bunch of vicious cretins who get their jollies making up trash about the Mothers of Missing Children without a scrap of Evidence. Her being one of the leading lights.
Heartwarming my eye. They make me feel ill.
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I wanted to stop in and say "Thanks!" to each and every one of you
and I wanna say a big Thank U to Satan, for buying my worthless soul and promising me lotsa in return for hurtin' crime victims all over again. And for takin' away my heart an' replacing it with a cash register. Feels so good to hurt people all over again and know I get .
First I'm gonna get lots and lots of off the McCanns - who cares about that kid, what's her name? Oh who cares, I'm the important one!Then it's time for the little nobody who wouldn't sell me my booze at breakfast time. A vulture's gotta do what a vulture's gotta do!
Thanks for makin' it all possible, suckers, I mean, thank you for all your wunnerful support
and I wanna say a big Thank U to Satan, for buying my worthless soul and promising me lotsa in return for hurtin' crime victims all over again. And for takin' away my heart an' replacing it with a cash register. Feels so good to hurt people all over again and know I get .
First I'm gonna get lots and lots of off the McCanns - who cares about that kid, what's her name? Oh who cares, I'm the important one!Then it's time for the little nobody who wouldn't sell me my booze at breakfast time. A vulture's gotta do what a vulture's gotta do!
Thanks for makin' it all possible, suckers, I mean, thank you for all your wunnerful support
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bb1 wrote:I wanted to stop in and say "Thanks!" to each and every one of you
and I wanna say a big Thank U to Satan, for buying my worthless soul and promising me lotsa in return for hurtin' crime victims all over again. And for takin' away my heart an' replacing it with a cash register. Feels so good to hurt people all over again and know I get .
First I'm gonna get lots and lots of off the McCanns - who cares about that kid, what's her name? Oh who cares, I'm the important one!Then it's time for the little nobody who wouldn't sell me my booze at breakfast time. A vulture's gotta do what a vulture's gotta do!
Thanks for makin' it all possible, suckers, I mean, thank you for all your wunnerful support
Oh you should have millions and millions of $$$$$$$$$$ because you are the best thing there ever was on TV. I sooooooo adore you and want to look just like you when I get as old as you. Who is your stylist? What are your beauty secrets. When are you going down the red carpet? I mean like, you are the biz. Are you getting your own TV series soon....... so many more questions. Kisses to you.
Then she awoke.........
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http://regretsandramblings.com/2011/11/06/confirmation-50-in-the-pocket/
There is a handy list of the ghouls who have tried to make money out of Madeleine McCann and her family:
Pat Brown
Steve Marsden
Brian Johnson
Goncalo Amaral
Hernani Carvalho
The Madeleine Foundation
Paulo Pereira Cristóvão
Brown might like to ponder the fact that every single one of them have come to some kind of grief, almost as if the Big Guy upstairs isn't too pleased with them.
Meanwhile, here's a song just for Brown:
There is a handy list of the ghouls who have tried to make money out of Madeleine McCann and her family:
Pat Brown
Steve Marsden
Brian Johnson
Goncalo Amaral
Hernani Carvalho
The Madeleine Foundation
Paulo Pereira Cristóvão
Brown might like to ponder the fact that every single one of them have come to some kind of grief, almost as if the Big Guy upstairs isn't too pleased with them.
Meanwhile, here's a song just for Brown:
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Very well stated, Jay.
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Snag is - there is nothing to come to court, though. Her fans seem to be overlooking this tiny, teensy detail. I suspect Brown thought 'everyone' agreed with her, when in reality there are only a handful of them.
I also suspect she made a fool of herself once too often in the States, so decided she would find a new bunch of suckers. And boy did she find a rich crop....
So, that's Bennett in December, Sauces say, Gonc in February...Brown sinking without trace. Let's face it, if she is reduced to pretending she values the support of the Hounders, of all people, she is not exactly riding high.
So, how does she intend to pay one of America's best-known attorneys? I am sooo looking forward to the truth about all this coming out.
I also suspect she made a fool of herself once too often in the States, so decided she would find a new bunch of suckers. And boy did she find a rich crop....
So, that's Bennett in December, Sauces say, Gonc in February...Brown sinking without trace. Let's face it, if she is reduced to pretending she values the support of the Hounders, of all people, she is not exactly riding high.
So, how does she intend to pay one of America's best-known attorneys? I am sooo looking forward to the truth about all this coming out.
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It certainly looks as though we have got lots to laugh at way through til next Spring.
And there was me wondering what I was going to do with myself this Winter.
I should have known not to worry, of course.
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Forgive me but, I have been laughing at the debacle. Pat Brown's lawyer is a convicted drunk who went to prison. And Brown is going to Portugal to support another crook. Ergo, it is convicted crooks fighting the parents of a missing child. How wonderful that is going to look in the press, don't you think?
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Freedom of speech is not freedom to tell lies about people and falsely accuse them of heinous crimes.
That is what Brown doesn't seem to want to think about.
Payment of her lawyer's fees, Bonny? I imagine it will be as much a slam drunk that she will be getting them pro bono as Gonc getting off scot free in his libel trial.
That is what Brown doesn't seem to want to think about.
Payment of her lawyer's fees, Bonny? I imagine it will be as much a slam drunk that she will be getting them pro bono as Gonc getting off scot free in his libel trial.
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I thought Ms Bremner was a red-hot attorney; I am surprised at her advising her supposed client to tell the whole world about it on the internet, not to mention getting involved with the Hounders...
Not really a very good start, is it?
Not really a very good start, is it?
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Interesting piece about US law in our members' area, Jayelles - and Brown has undeniably crossed over the line between 'free speech' and outright libel.
Notice what she actually said
I have retained prominent attorney Anne Bremner of Stanford Frey Cooper)
And in the unlikely event there is much truth in that, does anyone seriously think a 'prominent attorney' would advise her to continue with this nonsense?
I will be honest, at one level, I find Brown a disgusting apology for a human being; she has a long and shameful record of not only getting everything wrong it is possible to get wrong, but of self-aggrandisement at the expense of victims of crime.
This time, her victims are the McCanns and Madeleine; she seems to have overlooked the fact that they are British...
At another level, though, I am going to thoroughly enjoy Brown getting her long-overdue commupance, and all the egg which will appear on pitchforker faces when the truth about this stunt comes out.
Notice what she actually said
I have retained prominent attorney Anne Bremner of Stanford Frey Cooper)
And in the unlikely event there is much truth in that, does anyone seriously think a 'prominent attorney' would advise her to continue with this nonsense?
I will be honest, at one level, I find Brown a disgusting apology for a human being; she has a long and shameful record of not only getting everything wrong it is possible to get wrong, but of self-aggrandisement at the expense of victims of crime.
This time, her victims are the McCanns and Madeleine; she seems to have overlooked the fact that they are British...
At another level, though, I am going to thoroughly enjoy Brown getting her long-overdue commupance, and all the egg which will appear on pitchforker faces when the truth about this stunt comes out.
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The 'prominent attorney' is by law, a convicted drunk, who did time.
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Does anyone else think it is odd that so many people who hound the McCanns seem to get themselves into legal difficulties through no fault of The McCanns. And that so many of them had legal difficulties before anyone ever heard of The McCanns.
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What a good point, Sabot - it hadn't occurred to me before but yes, you're right, there is a pattern to their sociopathic conduct.
Legal troubles, spectacular debts, just about everyone in Gonc's circle being either convicted or awaiting trial for assorted misdeeds...yes, there is a pattern, isn't there?
Legal troubles, spectacular debts, just about everyone in Gonc's circle being either convicted or awaiting trial for assorted misdeeds...yes, there is a pattern, isn't there?
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Very nice one, Tony.
Sabot, they are birds of a feather, that's why. I reckon that this has always been envy at the amount of money that was so easily raised for Madeleine up until Kate wrote her book.
Why they might be envious of a child going missing, I don't know, unless they wish it had happened to them?
Sabot, they are birds of a feather, that's why. I reckon that this has always been envy at the amount of money that was so easily raised for Madeleine up until Kate wrote her book.
Why they might be envious of a child going missing, I don't know, unless they wish it had happened to them?
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Jayelles wrote:One of the things that baffles me is that the McCanns have not tried to prevent Brown selling her pamphlet altogether - so what is her problem?
She might well raise a lawsuit in the US and she might well win the freedom to spout her misinformation in the US. But US has no jurisdiction in Europe. She will still face our defamation laws if she brings her lies across the channel.
I could be mistaken (as I am not a lawyer) but isn't it true that the internet selling of her pamphlet has already brought the case within UK jurisdiction under current legislation. All the McCanns need to prove is that she has had UK customers via the internet and a libel trial can be brought.
I have discussed this with others more informed on it and their opinion is the same.
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greenink211 wrote:Jayelles wrote:One of the things that baffles me is that the McCanns have not tried to prevent Brown selling her pamphlet altogether - so what is her problem?
She might well raise a lawsuit in the US and she might well win the freedom to spout her misinformation in the US. But US has no jurisdiction in Europe. She will still face our defamation laws if she brings her lies across the channel.
I could be mistaken (as I am not a lawyer) but isn't it true that the internet selling of her pamphlet has already brought the case within UK jurisdiction under current legislation. All the McCanns need to prove is that she has had UK customers via the internet and a libel trial can be brought.
I have discussed this with others more informed on it and their opinion is the same.
I hope that's true, greenink. Talk about step into my parlor.............she will not have a leg to stand on.
Maybe sans could advise us on this?
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bb1 wrote:What a good point, Sabot - it hadn't occurred to me before but yes, you're right, there is a pattern to their sociopathic conduct.
Legal troubles, spectacular debts, just about everyone in Gonc's circle being either convicted or awaiting trial for assorted misdeeds...yes, there is a pattern, isn't there?
There is, Bonny. I just can't put my finger on quite what it is. But it is all very peculiar. Almost as though they are attracting some sort of vengeful force that is out to get them, and to expose the unsavoury inner workings of their horrible minds, and the disgusting nature of their lives
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Ah yes, I do believe you are right, Greenink, which puts Ms Brown in a very precarious situation...
Something else - she has blundered badly by casting her lot in with the Hounders so publically. In the interminable blood feuds of the pitchforkers, the Hounders only represent about a dozen people; it's an open secret that all those 'members' are actually socks.
Also, the Morais camp (Official Voice of Gonc) loathe Bennett and co; they will be further insulted at Ms Brown's threats to turn up in Portugal to solve the case for the PJ with her 'experts'.
Something else - she has blundered badly by casting her lot in with the Hounders so publically. In the interminable blood feuds of the pitchforkers, the Hounders only represent about a dozen people; it's an open secret that all those 'members' are actually socks.
Also, the Morais camp (Official Voice of Gonc) loathe Bennett and co; they will be further insulted at Ms Brown's threats to turn up in Portugal to solve the case for the PJ with her 'experts'.
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