More propaganda from the Generalissima (merged)

I am stunned at the way Team Gonc is unravelling.

Why would he know the first minute, Tony?.
Unless????????????????????????
Maggs, he should have known nothing more than the Press knew.
Something is way wrong with his statement. He was a civilian in at the very first minute?
This is starting to smell really nasty

Who was Gonc eating with that night?

crazytony wrote:Why would he know the first minute, Tony?.
Unless????????????????????????
Maggs, he should have known nothing more than the Press knew.
Something is way wrong with his statement. He was a civilian in at the very first minute?
This is starting to smell really nasty

Smell really nasty is an under statement Tony.
It seems like he knew before Gonc did. Its looking more sinister with this lot, than ever.
They all s**t in the same pot. Something is scaring them and I don't like to think what it may be.
Talk about rotten eggs and corruption, I don't think we are far from the truth about how far this goes.

Look at Gonc's tribe, there's not one of them can tell the truth, if their lives depended on it.
Gonc sure scares the s**t out of his gang.

Sabot wrote:
Who was Gonc eating with that night?

Sabot, I think he was supposed to have been in bed. Believe that and you'll believe anything.
I can't remember what he said in his book of lies.

They are seeing allof their nice little earners going down the pan. But it would be interesting to find out what those little earners are. Or were, rather.

Maggs wrote:

Sabot wrote:
Who was Gonc eating with that night?

Sabot, I think he was supposed to have been in bed. Believe that and you'll believe anything.
I can't remember what he said in his book of lies.

No, Maggs, he was at a restaurant that evening, eating with someone when he got the news. Who was he eating with?

We have just had confirmation that Goncalo Amaral was the one who was breaking the Judiciary secrecy act!
ETA: Thank you Morais!

Sabot wrote:

Maggs wrote:

Sabot wrote:
Who was Gonc eating with that night?

Sabot, I think he was supposed to have been in bed. Believe that and you'll believe anything.
I can't remember what he said in his book of lies.

No, Maggs, he was at a restaurant that evening, eating with someone when he got the news. Who was he eating with?

Manuel João.

On this evening, May 3rd 2007, I decide to dine at the Carvi Brasserie, in the centre of Portimão, before going home. I have been living for a year in this town, where I lead the Department of Criminal Investigation of the police judiciaire. In 1982, when I was 23 and I had just taken up this career, I had already gone there. There, I had made the acquaintance of someone who was to become my friend, Manuel João. Former local official and sporty, a charismatic person. He always lent a hand to members of the police judiciaire who went to the town for the purposes of an investigation. As an elected local official, he originated the creation of a police judiciaire department in Portimão. Thus, that evening, while savouring fruits de mer, we discuss the problems of Portuguese society.

It is midnight when I receive the news about the disappearance of a little four-year-old English girl. The police officer on call was informed about it by the National Guard of The Republic (GNR) At the time of her disappearance, the little girl was supposed to have been sleeping in an apartment while her parents were dining a hundred metres away. An inspector is sent to the scene immediately to establish the initial facts. A forensic expert assigned to security of the premises will join him. All precautions are taken to preserve possible clues and elements of evidence. I demand to be informed very regularly and, before going home, I call on the police on duty to check that all urgent measures are underway. The head of the Guard has already alerted the police authorities at Faro airport and the control post set up on the Guadiana* bridge.

Thanks, Maggs. What a little fibber he is.

And Flores isn't with him?

Morais has translated more, and Flores is still digging that hole for Gonc:

http://joana-morais.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/blind-justice-maddie-case-review-is.html#comment-form

FMF: Marinho, it wasn't like that. I accompanied this case from the first minute.

AMF: What happened then?

FMF: What took place here was something very different. It was an investigation that started started off badly, and it started off badly with an immediate and huge media apparatus. Where it was dictated, imposed externally and internally, that there was only one solution for this case - that someone had abducted the child and then disappeared to the ends of the earth. Thus...

AMF: It started off badly because of that?

FMF: Yes, it did. The criminal investigation before a crime does not have the prejudices of Dr. Marinho. It cannot have any kind of prejudices.

AMF: All hypotheses are in the open.

FMF: Before a crime...

AMP: [interrupts] But there isn't any prejudice, Moita Flores, I'm talking about several years on from the events...

FMF: Excuse me, before a crime and the execution of that crime, regardless if they are English, French or Portuguese, independently of whoever they are, all hypotheses must be taken into account...

AMP: [interrupts again] But how do you know it's a crime? It could have been an accident, the child could have fallen in a hole...

FMF: I'm sorry, but the child was asleep in her bed.

AMP: So,?! She could have woken up and wondered out....

FMF: The parents were checking her, the friends went there to check on her, various persons went there to check on her. The girl and her siblings[twins] were asleep. They were in the bedroom sleeping. There was a crime. But what crime? We don't know. It could have been an abduction, it could have been homicide, it could have been an accident, even an accident.

AMP: But if it was an accident then it wasn't a crime.

FMF: It could also be true. But every hypothesis must be...

AMF: If it was an accident, there was also the hypothesis of a crime of concealment of the cadaver.

FMF: Alberta, there is a problem here that is pivotal to address. From the first minute, everything was limited so no other hypothesis besides the abduction could be investigated. An abduction made by a fantastic abductor, that no one could describe, of which there are not traces at all, there are no evidence of an abductor that allow to say this man or someone abducted [the girl].

AMF: Has that prevented the gathering of important evidence in the first hours?

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Has Flores forgotten that he is doing this in the presence of someone who is going to be appearing for the McCanns at Gonc's libel trial?

And the noose is tightening around Amaral's neck!

crazytony wrote:And Flores isn't with him?

He's with another local politician, Tony:

Former local official and sporty, a charismatic person. He always lent a hand to members of the police judiciaire who went to the town for the purposes of an investigation. As an elected local official, he originated the creation of a police judiciaire department in Portimão.

I smell very big rats - can you imagine the outcry there would be if the Mayor of, say, Skegness, started meddling in a high-profile case in Cardiff?

Anyway, how hard is it to pick up a phone and tell your old friend Flores what has just happened? Gonc himself says that when he went home:

I make lots of phone calls

Remember, by breakfast on the 4th, Gonc had decided the McCanns DONE IT...

Friday May 4th

This morning I am worried; something isn't right in the account of the events

bb1 wrote:

crazytony wrote:And Flores isn't with him?

He's with another local politician, Tony:

Former local official and sporty, a charismatic person. He always lent a hand to members of the police judiciaire who went to the town for the purposes of an investigation. As an elected local official, he originated the creation of a police judiciaire department in Portimão.

I smell very big rats - can you imagine the outcry there would be if the Mayor of, say, Skegness, started meddling in a high-profile case in Cardiff?

Anyway, how hard is it to pick up a phone and tell your old friend Flores what has just happened? Gonc himself says that when he went home:

I make lots of phone calls

Remember, by breakfast on the 4th, Gonc had decided the McCanns DONE IT...

Friday May 4th

This morning I am worried; something isn't right in the account of the events

He should have been nowhere near the case, Bonny!

He certainly shouldn't have been, Tony, but isn't it kind of him to go running his mouth off like this? Right in front of Marinho Pinto?

bb1 wrote:He certainly shouldn't have been, Tony, but isn't it kind of him to go running his mouth off like this? Right in front of Marinho Pinto?

Oh, yes indeed, Bonny.
Thanks to Morais, the whole wide world now knows that, Arguido Gonc; was running his mouth off to someone who had nothing to do with the case.
So much for Portugal's Judiciary secrecy laws, Amaral broke them on day one!

There's still more to come, Tony, so he has ample opportunity to drop Gonc even further in it.

FMF: Alberta, there is a problem here that is pivotal to address. From the first minute, everything was limited so no other hypothesis besides the abduction could be investigated. An abduction made by a fantastic abductor, that no one could describe, of which there are not traces at all, there are no evidence of an abductor that allow to say this man or someone abducted [the girl].


Looks like Flores is telling the world that Gonc was concocting the Fridge Theory from the start, and didn't bother treating the case as an abduction.

I hope he keeps it up.

This morning I am worried; something isn't right in the account of the events
That would be the day he was made an Arguido in another missing child's case.

So it was, Tony, funny how he forgets to mention that, isn't it?

Francisco Moita Flores (Moura, February 23 of 1953[1]) is a writer, researcher and current President of Chamber of Santarém. It is married with the actress and producer Filomena Gonçalves. He is the father of three children and is grandfather of three grandchildren.

Born in Moura where he studied until the age of fifteen years. He continued his studies in Beja and after already married and with two children in Lisbon.

Did the B.a. in Biologyin 1975, having been from that year, professor of Secondary Education, this area, until 1978.

That year he joined the Judicial Police and was the first runner-up in the course of criminal investigation and training of inspectors.

Until 1990 belonged to the brigades of theft , armed robbery and homicide.

Repeatedly praised, the latter left to dedicate himself to academic life.

However, he returned two years later to join the then leadership of PJ with the mandate to carry out the studies and evaluations of criminal movement. It is in these roles that advisory participal in police Cases, programme of the SIC that marks a turning point in relations between the police and the media. The 12 years as an inspector of the Judicial Police, provided him many experiences and inspiration for his fiction, some of them adapted for television.

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?ref=SERP&br=ro&mkt=en-US&dl=en&lp=PT_EN&a=http%3a%2f%2fpt.wikipedia.org%2fwiki%2fFrancisco_Moita_Flores

No doubt in my mind who Amaral was leaking to
ETA: he was a professor at 23?

Repeatedly praised, the latter left to dedicate himself to academic life.

He another one who writes his own Wiki page?

And I wonder where he was based? Was it FARO?

bb1 wrote:Repeatedly praised, the latter left to dedicate himself to academic life.

He another one who writes his own Wiki page?

And I wonder where he was based? Was it FARO?

Look at the year he was born and then look when he became a professor