EU referendum set for June 23rd

http://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/euan-mccolm-cometh-the-hour-corbyn-s-nowhere-to-be-seen-1-4152177



Gordon Brown and Neil Kinnock during their pro-EU rally at the Royal Concert Hall in Glasgow. Picture: Jane Barlow/PA

Why on earth does Remain think wheeling out the likes of those two helps their cause? The Kinnock tribe are just about the most disgusting, greedy troughers in the whole EU - and there's a lot of competition for that.

And that is actually the best reason of all to vote Leave. I cannot think of ANY effect the EU has had on my life, except to restrict the kind of vacuum cleaners I can buy, and insist I buy 'light' bulbs that aren't actually much brighter than candles.

All the EU people seem to have done is issue regulation after regulation - usually ridiculous.  Why, its as though they want to make peoples' lives more difficult than they need be.

I support Liz Hurley on that one too.  

It's getting more exciting.....

Whatever way it goes, I will be surprised if Dave manages to hang onto his job for long after, Lily. He's played his hand very badly; he jumped the shark when he claimed Brexit was liable to cause World War Three, so his later apocalyptic prophesies have seemed rather feeble in comparison.

Also, making threats hasn't gone down awfully well; he's putting uncommitted backs up, IMO.

Arthur_S
‏@allanholloway
"We don't go into white working-class wards" - Labour spokesman @Channel4News

And that says it all about a lot of things.....

And this won't help Remain...



Well. I didn't expect that.....

bb1 wrote:

And this won't help Remain...



Well. I didn't expect that.....

Will Dave have to resign if the exit wins?

I don't see how he can stay on, Lily, because he will be the architect of this earthquake.....if that makes sense? Labour's been worse than useless, and the SNP have made an appalling blunder by committing themselves 100% to Remain. The infighting there is underway already, but I won't throw internecine Scottish politics into the mix.....

Now this:



Boris will be measuring up the Number 10 curtains. As you know, when UK political leaders screw up, they are unceremoniously evicted - the removal van is round the following day.

Mike Smithson ‏@MSmithsonPB 5h5 hours ago
58% of LEAVE support in ICM phone poll comes from C2DEs compared with 36% of REMAIN support

And that is the class split which is opening up because, IMO, any benefits of the EU have NOT trickled down to us plebs, while all the problems have.

Typical...

Compare this:

http://order-order.com/2016/06/13/yougov-leave-7-points-ahead/#disqus_thread


Med Jumper • 6 hours ago
This is why people want Out.

I am a single-mum, of 49, to an 18 year old at university. I am in the political centreground and now a floating voter. While studying for and standing in for a Green MEP candidate at hustings and interviews, I found my passionate "in" turn to "out". I discovered how 'it' all really works and was astounded, angered and saddened. The irony.

I have become part of a new class, "the educated poor", reduced to barrel-scraping alongside my euro coach-riding counterparts.

We fight over scraps of hours, whittled out of proper jobs in an economic scam, which means I cannot compete with people who only have to pay £50 per week in bed-shift sharing caravans or multi-dwellings. Jobs previously done when I was a student or travelling have become diamond-prized.

This is nothing to do with "the recession", this is EU policy at work: scrap-heaping young people and middle-aged alike. Selling Greece a turkey or to Turkey, making lop-sided economic recovery on the backs of working and educated poor, while systematically draining new EU countries of their futures and destabilising the entire job market. So we have teachers being teaching assistants and PhD chemists picking asparagus. All honest work, but what a disgraceful waste.

I am so, so tired of being told to take my medicine and like it, because it's good for me. The actors, "slebs", the economists, the politicians of all hues and all the people who are not touched by the consequences. I'm tired with taking the hit. I'm tired with being set up against fellow Europeans in a scrap over dregs. I fear the anger and hate of despair.

The first trip to the foodbank already under my belt, so don't threaten me with: it'll be even worse if we leave. It can't get too much worse than asking for sanitary products to be added to our food parcels.

Mum, why are you crying? Because I used to give play therapy to Bosnian refugees and now I can't even get an honest bloody cleaning job for 14 hours a week.

There are risks to remaining and risks to leaving. Even the parliament briefings come out as fairly neutral/quid pro quo in effect. There are always risks in an uncertain future, but I can't stay knowing that I will have to take more of the same medicine. I take my chances. I trust us to do it. We might falter a bit, but democracy, sovereignty, freedom and dignity are always worth it.

My daughter and I will be voting "Leave" on the 23rd June.

Cling tightly out there.

With this pathetic whine from limousine lefty Polly Toynbee because the plebs aren't listening to her...

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/13/brexit-supporters-leave-vote-right


Brexit supporters have unleashed furies even they can’t control

Quote:

Here were the two irreconcilable faces of Labour, eager young London graduates on the phone making scant headway with older traditional voters of Nottingham, impervious to love letters from Der Spiegel or heartfelt warnings that Labour people, Labour areas, would pay the price for Brexit self-destruction.

She has absolutely NO concept of the yawning divide between 'eager young London graduates' and the people at the bottom, so secure is she in her smug elitism, convinced that she and her kind know what's best for the plebs.

How very dare the plebs disagree with her!

I am actually surprised she did her phone polling from London, and not from her famous Tuscan villa....

It's getting more intense now I see?

It is indeed, Lily - stand by for some epic lying, empty promises and mud-slinging in the run up to next week's vote.

I have NO idea what is going to happen; I had taken it for granted that Remain would 'win', but if these figures are accurate, then Leave is going to be too far ahead for the establishment to do their usual trick with 'postal votes' and win by 50.10%.

A sort of silent, suppressed anger resentment has been brewing in the public for a long time, and it may be coming to a head?

I do hope that the populace receive exactly what is best for them.

If we do, that will be a novelty, Lily.

Think good thoughts...... 

@twlldun 11h11 hours ago
The British public, June 24th.



Yes, I think that sums it up nicely....

Is this Remain's last chance? The EU's top bureaucrat set to wade into the Brexit battle after poll leads for Leave mean he can break a secret deal with Cameron to keep quiet
Jean-Claude Juncker promised to stay out of the referendum unless Brexit was in front going into the final week
After a string of polls put Brexit firmly ahead, the EU Commission President is poised to make his intervention
David Cameron's Remain campaign has been left beleaguered by fierce debate about controls on immigration and claims of scaremongering


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Well, that's it in the bag for Leave, then. I am sooo looking forward to being told what to do by Juncker, of all people.

He sounds like a dictator!  

And the Sun will have a ball, with Spitfires shooting down Junkers, etc....