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Post  bb1 Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:07 pm

http://www.publico.pt/sociedade/noticia/nao-ha-acordo-entre-pais-de-maddie-e-goncalo-amaral-1584933

Maddie's parents and Gonçalo Amaral fail according

LUSA 18/02/2013 - 18:45
Case goes to trial. Parents of missing British child in Algarve in 2007 asking € 1.2 million to the former PJ inspector for alleged defamation.

The parents of Madeleine McCann, the British child missing in the Algarve in 2007 and Gonçalo Amaral did not reach court settlement in civil proceedings in which the former Judiciary Police inspector accused of alleged defamation.

Defense source**** said on Monday Lusa that "the parties have not reached agreement" and has called for "the resumption of proceedings" in 1. Civil Court of Lisbon, which will now have to schedule a new date for the beginning of trial.

The first hearing was scheduled for 24 January and, last week, the judge granted a stay of proceedings, in which Madeleine's parents claim compensation of € 1.2 million for allegedly defaming the former PJ inspector.

In this action, which prompted the request for seizure of goods Gonçalo Amaral as a precautionary measure, Kate and Gerry McCann still complain protection of rights, freedoms and guarantees.

In related case, 7. Th Civil Court of Lisbon decided in January 2010 to maintain a ban on the book Maddie: The Truth of the Lie , written by Goncalo Amaral, and video with the same title, based a documentary broadcast on TVI.

The ban of the book and the video, which presents the thesis of Gonçalo Amaral involvement of Kate and Gerry McCann in the disappearance of her daughter with the concealment of the corpse had been provisionally enacted September 9, 2009.

On 19 October 2010, the Lisbon Court of Appeal annulled the decision of 7. Civil Court, after which the McCanns appealed to the Supreme Court of Justice (STJ). In its judgment of 18 March 2011, the Supreme Court of Appeal upheld the decision.

Madeleine McCann disappeared on May 3, 2007, in an apartment in a tourist resort in Praia da Luz in the Algarve, where he was vacationing with her parents and twin brothers. At the time of the disappearance, Goncalo Amaral was coordinator of the Criminal Investigation Department of the Judicial Police of Portimão.

Kate and Gerry McCann, who have always claimed that the child was abducted, were made defendants in September 2007. The case was closed for lack of evidence, in July 2008, although prosecutors admit reopening if new data emerge about the child's disappearance.

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***** Caveat Emptor - 'defence source' means Team Gonc, which also means the 'source' is being economical with the truth.


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Post  bb1 Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:15 pm

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/pais-de-maddie-e-goncalo-amaral-falham-acordo

Maddie's parents and Gonçalo Amaral fail according
The parents of Madeleine McCann, the British child missing in the Algarve in 2007 and Gonçalo Amaral did not reach an out of court settlement in the civil case in which the former Judiciary Police inspector accused of alleged defamation.

Defense source said on Monday Lusa that "the parties have not reached agreement" and has called for "the reactivation of the body" in 1. Civil Court of Lisbon, which will now have to schedule a new date for the beginning of trial.
The first hearing was scheduled for January 24 and the week before, the judge granted a stay of proceedings, in which Madeleine's parents claim compensation of € 1.2 million for allegedly defaming the former PJ inspector.
In this action, which prompted the request for seizure of goods Gonçalo Amaral as a precautionary measure, Kate and Gerry McCann still complain protection of rights, freedoms and guarantees.
In related case, 7. Th Civil Court of Lisbon decided in January 2010 to maintain a ban on the book "Maddie - The Truth of the Lie", written by Goncalo Amaral, and video with the same title based on a documentary broadcast on TVI.
The ban of the book and the video, which presents the thesis of Gonçalo Amaral involvement of Kate and Gerry McCann in the disappearance of her daughter with the concealment of the corpse had been provisionally enacted September 9, 2009.

The October 19, 2010, the Lisbon Court of Appeal annulled the decision of 7. Civil Court, after which the McCanns appealed to the Supreme Court of Justice (STJ).
In its judgment of 18 March 2011, the Supreme Court of Appeal upheld the decision.
Madeleine McCann disappeared on May 3, 2007, in an apartment in a holiday village of Praia da Luz, where she was vacationing with her parents and twin brothers.
At the time of the disappearance, Goncalo Amaral was coordinator of the Criminal Investigation Department of the Judicial Police of Portimão.
Kate and Gerry McCann, who have always claimed that the child was abducted, were made defendants in September 2007.
The case was closed for lack of evidence, in July 2008, although prosecutors admit reopening if new data emerge about the child's disappearance.
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Post  bb1 Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:51 pm

Oh, is that why Morais lowered herself to go slumming yesterday - breaking it to them that there was bad news coming?

All those high-fiving haters are going to look very, very stupid when the whole story comes out. Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:19 pm

Where's the Generalissima? Cut out of the loop again? Or trying to find a way of twisting this to suit her own agenda? Hope she remembers, the truth WILL come out. Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:43 pm

Oh dear, I thought 'everyone' in Portugal loved Gonc? Not judging by the CdM comments....

Comment made ​​by: Anonymous 22h12
Not just the uniforms to be a good detective, he seems not born for this. Crimes find themselves with plausible evidence, not with guesswork ...

Comment made ​​by: Américo19h09
I do not know why ... but not even sympathize with this Gonçalo Amaral nothing and nothing inspires me confidence in him.
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Post  bb1 Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:53 pm

In this action, which prompted the request for seizure of goods Gonçalo Amaral as a precautionary measure, Kate and Gerry McCann still complain protection of rights, freedoms and guarantees.


If anyone can read that and STILL not grasp that it was Gonc who wanted the settlement, and Gonc whose offer has been turned down (much as Bennett's settlement off was rejected) then they shouldn't be allowed to cross busy roads by themselves.
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Post  Pedro Silva Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:08 pm

his ugly, disgusting face, makes me want to puke.
vomit


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Post  Pedro Silva Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:08 pm

gonçalo amaral:
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Post  bb1 Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:32 am

Morais still got nothing to say? Shame - guess she hasn't been given her script by Team Gonc yet.

Looks like Gonc is going to have to stand up in court and play his fabled Ace whether he likes it or not. Which, as he hasn't got one, presents him with rather a problem. Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:41 am

"the parties have not reached agreement" and has called for "the resumption of proceedings"

Surely even the forkers, hounders, and assorted haters aren't deluded enough to think that it's perjurer Gonc's people who are calling the shots? They're in for some very nasty shocks if so, but then, that's their own fault for falling for WUMs, fantasists and general false prophets.
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Post  bb1 Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:44 am

Deluded hater:

Amaral would never put a future court case in danger, and tell what is in the hidden files

That's the 'hidden files' that the Attorney General of Portugal read before he cleared the McCanns and Murat?

The 'hidden files' that the fat defective hasn't seen - supposedly- due to him having been kicked out of the PJ, sorry, 'retired' before the rest of the files were made public?

Stupid people. So blinded by hate, they can't see what is staring them in the face, and choose instead to idolize a dirty, perjuring, disgraced ex-policeman.
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Post  bb1 Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:17 am

http://thehoundingofthemccans.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/thank-you-but-no-thank-you-said-mr-mrs.html

The libel case between the McCann family and disgraced ex Portuguese cop Gonçalo Amaral will go ahead as was planned before Amaral's lawyer requested a stay. The McCanns turned down Amaral's offer and have elected to move forward to a full trial.

I have had no interest in the yapping that Amaral was the one with the upper hand in the proceedings; I knew the babble was false. The defendant's lawyer approached the plaintiffs lawyer and asked to negotiate an out of court settlement. The courts agreed to a stay of one calender month and not the six months reported in the media thirty days ago. The case has now become simplified; Amaral must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that which he has written in his book is true. No more, no less.
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Post  Jean-Pierre.t50 Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:24 am

Incredibly difficult to read this, due to the oddities in Portuguese law. And it always has the capacity to defy logic.

That said, my take is that someone (it could have been either side) suggested an attempt to settle this before trial. (as is required in most jurisdictions to avoid wasting court time. 95% of civil cases are settled without court proceedings). Discussions ensued and agreement could not be reached.

Therefore the case is going to trial.

I gather from various websites that there is a belief that the McCanns requested a a settlement "on Amarals terms" to avoid having to give evidence under oath in court.

In which case they could simply have dropped the action. End of story.






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Post  lily Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:41 am

I gather from various websites that there is a belief that the McCanns requested a a settlement "on Amarals terms" to avoid having to give evidence under oath in court.

In which case they could simply have dropped the action. End of story.


J-P, we know you are 100% correct but there are people out there who are so clueless that they will not believe what you have just written.

And so it will continue. The McCanns are liars, just you wait until Gonc shows his Ace. The media is sitting on a mountain of evidence....... blah blah blah.









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Post  Pedro Silva Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:06 pm

My friends, this was taken from diário online Algarve newspaper:

http://www.regiao-sul.pt/noticia.php?refnoticia=134186

Madeleine McCann Case that opposes McCanns / amaral without extrajudicial agreement

The parents of Madeleine McCann, the British child missing in the Algarve in 2007 and Gonçalo Amaral did not reach an out of court settlement in the civil case in which the former Judiciary Police inspector accused of alleged defamation.

Defense source told Lusa that today "the parties have not reached agreement" and has called for "the reactivation of the body" in 1. Civil Court of Lisbon, which will now have to schedule a new date for the start of the trial.

The first hearing was scheduled for January 24 and the week before, the judge granted a stay of proceedings, in which Madeleine's parents claim compensation of € 1.2 million for allegedly defaming the former PJ inspector.

In this action, which prompted the request for seizure of goods Gonçalo Amaral as a precautionary measure, Kate and Gerry McCann still complain protection of rights, freedoms and guarantees.

In related case, 7. Th Civil Court of Lisbon decided in January 2010 to maintain a ban on the book "Maddie - The Truth of the Lie", written by Goncalo Amaral, and video with the same title based on a documentary broadcast on TVI.

The ban of the book and the video, which presents the thesis of Gonçalo Amaral involvement of Kate and Gerry McCann in the disappearance of her daughter with the concealment of the corpse had been provisionally enacted September 9, 2009.

The October 19, 2010, the Lisbon Court of Appeal annulled the decision of 7. Civil Court, after which the McCanns appealed to the Supreme Court of Justice (STJ).

In its judgment of 18 March 2011, the Supreme Court of Appeal upheld the decision.

Madeleine McCann disappeared on May 3, 2007, in an apartment in a holiday village of Praia da Luz, where she was vacationing with her parents and two twin brothers.

At the time of the disappearance, Goncalo Amaral was coordinator of the Criminal Investigation Department of the Judicial Police of Portimão.

Kate and Gerry McCann, who have always claimed that the child was abducted, were made defendants in September 2007.

The case was closed for lack of evidence, in July 2008, although prosecutors admit reopening if new data emerge about the child's disappearance.
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Post  bb1 Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:33 pm

You must admit, it's very amusing watching them. They clearly are too thick to grasp just why their delusions about Gonc holding Aces/Secret Things/Being in the driving seat are so funny.

As Jean-Pierre pointed out, if that were so, then the McCanns would have abandoned the action long ago.

Please note, the forkers are so desperate, they've dug up all that old bolleaux from the 'juxtapose' WUM about loose cannons, mantles and footage. rofl rofl rofl rofl

It was WUM-mery then, it's WUM-ery now, and it is always going to be WUM-ery. Poor deluded fools. Pcorneater
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Post  Sabot Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:37 pm

So Amaral turned down the shed loads of money and the apology that The McCanns offered. No? No I don't thinks so either. As already stated, all The McCanns had to do was to withdraw The Claim. And then it would be up to Amaral to decide what to do, if anything.
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Post  Sabot Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:44 pm


Oh, I forgot. Why would Amaral turn down the obvious opportunity to keep his money and his house just so he can risk a Libel Trial. It doesn't make sense, not even in Portugal. Amaral could have been rolling in it again by now. Not to forget another Book.
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Post  bb1 Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:47 pm

So Amaral turned down the shed loads of money and the apology that The McCanns offered

Hilarious, isn't it? This is one of my favourites:


Stout fellow for ensuring he gets the affair aired in Court.

Do they seriously think Gonc wants to have to defend his Fridge Theory (as mocked in parliament) in court? Or his criminal conviction for perjury? How about Tavares da Almeida now being a convicted torturer? Have the haters somehow blocked all this out of their tiny 'minds'?

Gonc doesn't have a say in what happens, any more than Bennett did. Have they forgotten that Bennett tried to settle out of court, and had his offers rejected, just as Gonc's have been?

Can't wait to see what spinny and fake news Morais invents to try to cover this up. Mind you, the Gonc Cult is so stupid, they'll swallow any old rubbish. Pcorneater
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Post  lily Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:56 pm

Can't wait to see what spinny and fake news Morais invents to try to cover this up. Mind you, the Gonc Cult is so stupid, they'll swallow any old rubbish.

She counts on them being that stupid so they don't ask her any awkward questions. They can hold onto that cherished memory they have of Gonc who will deliver them from the torture they fear of their own inadequateness. Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:10 pm

I don't know which is greater, their delusion or their stupidity, Lily. They idolise a criminal, a convicted perjurer who has caused Portugal's name to be blackened at the UN, the ECHR, and with Amnesty.

The PJ are in the process of stripping him of his pension etc., along with his thuggish, gangster crony Cristovao - yet they still think the sun shines out of his backside!

Go figure.
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Post  Sabot Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:10 pm

It's bound to be either "The offer wasn't large enough", or "The apology wasn't broad enough." She doesn't have to say whose offer or whose apology. No names, no pack drill. The Hounders will spin that.
And since it is likely to be six months before any new Trial Date, they will all have forgotten about it by then, and go in baying for blood.
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Post  bb1 Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:12 pm

they will all have forgotten about it by then, and go in baying for blood.

True; they all have the attention span of goldfish.
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Post  Sabot Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:16 pm


How many times have they done this, Bonny? I've lost count. It has been one disaster after another and none of them ever remembered.
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Post  bb1 Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:19 pm

That's what is so staggering, Sabot.

THEY HAVE NEVER, ONCE, BEEN RIGHT ABOUT ANYTHING

Yet they cannot even remember that, and learn from it, and question the scenario they are now inventing to comfort themselves

Bizarre.
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