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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:53 pm

http://www.cityam.com/254137/eu-parliaments-brexit-negotiator-has-warned-talks-must?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=dvTwitter

The European Parliament's lead negotiators for Brexit talks has warned that discussions with the UK must conclude ahead of MEP election in mid-2019.

Speaking after a meeting with UK Brexit secretary David Davis, Guy Verhofstadt said officials had just less than a year and a half to reach a deal if, as expected, Prime Minister Theresa May launches divorce proceedings in early 2017


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'Must'? What's that sleazy-looking Belgian with the bad teeth going to do about it? Who died and made him emperor?
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Post  lily Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:10 pm

He's another one from the Junker mold?
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Post  bb1 Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:54 pm

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/735031/EU-votes-to-create-Super-Army-as-defence-plan-passes-through-parliament

DAWN OF EU ARMY: MEPs APPROVE new £420million-a-year SUPER FORCE to defend Europe

THE EUROPEAN UNION (EU) Army will be up and running in less than a year after MEPs today voted for the creation of a super force which can override NATO.

By SIOBHAN MCFADYEN
PUBLISHED: 12:40, Tue, Nov 22, 2016 | UPDATED: 15:38, Tue, Nov 22, 2016

The vote was not supported by everyone in the Strasbourg Parliament after it narrowly passed by 369 votes to 255, with 70 abstentions.

And astonishingly it has been agreed that the EU should also be prepared to act autonomously in cases where NATO is not willing to take the lead.

However the EU is celebrating this victory claiming the security situation in and around Europe has worsened significantly in recent years, due to challenges like terrorism, hybrid threats or cyber and energy insecurity.

t says no country is able to tackle defence alone and “solidarity and resilience require the EU to stand and act together”.

European politicians have now guaranteed at least £420m-a-year in funding to set up their new European wide army which will be a "rapid response" team.

They suggest devoting an initial two per cent of the overall GDP to defence, establishing multinational forces and EU headquarters to plan and command crisis management operations, and enabling the EU to act where NATO is unwilling to do so.
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That would be the EU army the Remoaners were claiming was a fantasy just a few months ago? I hope Geldof, Clegg, Mrs Smug Rich and the rest of them are volunteering themselves and their children for it?

If not, why not?

Frankly, it's a ridiculous idea, anyway - hard to imagine anything more totally ineffectual than an EU army.
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Post  lily Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:53 pm

Their children?  They will be nowhere near an army....Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:44 am

I have absolutely NO sane, sensible explanation for the latest SNP stupidity over the EU. One of Sturgeon's lackeys has been trotting round Europe and lying through his teeth:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/22/nicola-sturgeons-brexit-minister-caught-making-inaccurate-claims/

Nicola Sturgeon's Brexit minister caught making inaccurate claims to Brussels diplomats

Nicola Sturgeon’s Brexit Minister has been caught out making inaccurate claims to Brussels diplomats about the level of Scottish support for the EU and suggestions of non-existent talks with the Spanish government.

Mike Russell used a speech to EU officials to portray Scotland as separate from the rest of the UK, claiming that five million Scots had demonstrated in the EU referendum that “they do not want to give up their European citizenship.”

He also claimed that the only MSPs to vote for Brexit were four Tories and, pressed specifically about whether talks were taking placed with Spain over a special deal for Scotland, reassured the audience that “we would not be talking in these terms unless we were having conversations.”

But the Tories accused him of attempting to paint “a completely false picture” to a “sympathetic audience”, pointing out that fewer than 1.7 million Scots voted to Remain compared to more than a million who backed Leave.

The Telegraph disclosed that Alex Neil, a former Scottish Government Minister who served in Cabinet with Mr Russell, voted Leave and his allegations that other SNP MSPs have approached him confirming they did the same.

The Spanish Government further undermined Mr Russell’s claims by confirming they had held no talks about a special Brexit deal for Scotland. A senior government source said the EU has been clear there would be no negotiations until the UK triggers Article 50.

Any deal would have to be agreed by all member states, including Spain, which is wary of offering Scotland preferential terms for fear of encouraging its own separatist movements. Mariano Rajoy, the Spanish Prime Minister, said in June that Scotland will have to leave the EU with the rest of the UK.
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About the only reason I can think of for this insanity is that the whole lot of them are in someone's pocket. Possibly even Soros'.
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Post  bb1 Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:46 am

They've also been presenting eurocrats with a childish booklet about how wonderful we are, sample:

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They are rapidly turning into a hideous national embarrassment.
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Post  bb1 Wed Nov 23, 2016 2:11 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/neo-nazi-thomas-mair-gets-whole-life-sentence-for-mp-jo-coxs-murder-10668829

Neo-Nazi Thomas Mair gets whole life sentence for MP Jo Cox's murder
Police describe Thomas Mair as a terrorist after he shot and stabbed Jo Cox outside a constituency surgery before the EU vote.


I still have a good few unanswered questions about this most convenient political murder. But the law has spoken, case closed.

I won't be surprised if Mair 'commits suicide' in jail.
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Post  bb1 Wed Nov 23, 2016 2:51 pm

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Far-Right extremist: Thomas Mair (pictured left), the unemployed gardener who murdered MP Jo Cox on June 16 this year, had a gold Third Reich Eagle ornament (right) on his bookcase

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3961010/Inside-lair-political-assassin-quiet-unassuming-loner-53-plotted-murder-Jo-Cox.html#ixzz4Qqr5sz4B
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Any genuine book reader can see at a glance what's wrong with that bookcase.
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Post  Pedro Silva Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:33 pm

the eagle above looks like roman.
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Post  bb1 Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:50 pm

It could be, Pedro, it certainly doesn't look like a nazi eagle to me. But none of those books have been opened, and they are all history books - one of them is about the death of JFK. There's nothing sinister about books about the Lufftwaffe, military historians have them by the dozen.

And - they are all as immaculate as the day they came out of the bookshop - or from Amazon.

That Mair killed Mrs Cox is undeniable, but I don't think we've heard anything like the true story, and never will, because of the manner in which the trial was conducted.
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Post  Pedro Silva Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:42 pm

bb1, your words are mine.
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Post  bb1 Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:34 am

Head of the European Parliament Martin Schulz quits ‘so he can challenge Angela Merkel in next year’s German elections’
Schulz, 60, announced today he will not be standing for a third term
He is expected to be given a prime position for the Social Democratic Party (SDP)
He has not confirmed he intends to stand against Angela Merkel, but is hotly-tipped to do so
He as led the European Parliament since 2012



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Why do eurocrats all look grubby and creepy?

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Post  bb1 Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:45 am

At least Nige has a sense of humour....

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Nigel Farage (left) looked gleefully at the Ferrero Rocher as he was handed the tray by Arron Banks, co-founder of the Leave.EU campaign


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Post  lily Fri Nov 25, 2016 3:15 pm

Do you think they feel sleazy inside?

Nige looks so well turned out.  I really do like him.....
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Post  bb1 Fri Nov 25, 2016 3:32 pm

Unlike most politicians, at least he's entertaining, and he doesn't whinge. And you can't help laughing at his sudden elevation to Britain's Most Important Politician.

If Boris can be Foreign Secretary, I don't see why Nige can't be our US Ambassador, it would liven things up. Pcorneater
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Post  lily Fri Nov 25, 2016 3:55 pm

I think he would fit into that post quite well. Pcorneater
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Post  Sabot Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:11 pm

It would not be possible. It simply would not do. Although I can't say that I actually care.
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Post  lily Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:22 pm

Out of interest, Sabot, because I do not know, why would it not be possible?
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Post  bb1 Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:30 pm

We've got one just now, and he doesn't seem to be too awful....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Darroch

Sir Nigel Kim Darroch KCMG (pronunciation: /ˈdærək/; born 30 April 1954) is a senior British diplomat, who since January 2016 has been Her Majesty's Ambassador to the United States.[2]


That aside, I don't think there are actually any legal barriers to Nige being Ambassador, but I think he'd have to get a gong or something first, and he isn't exactly Flavour of the Month in Downing Street right now. Can't think why.....

No-one could be quite as bad as some of the US ambassadors appointed by Obama in return for donations....why there hasn't been an outcry about that, I do not know.
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Post  lily Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:41 pm

Thank you for the info, Bonny.  It has definitely helped.  smile
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Post  bb1 Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:50 pm

UK ambassadors have generally come up through the Civil Service and Diplomatic Corps, Lily, so aren't quite as tied to the government of the day. It probably goes back, again, to the PM not being the Head of State. Thankfully.

I must admit, when I am reading US progressive sites like Slate, Daily Kos, etc., I do chuckle at the bizarre ideas they have about Europe being a socialist paradise.

1. Europeans are even more argumentative about politics than Americans, IMO and the real Right is rising in Europe.

2. They're not socialist, they are social democracies, which rely on capitalism to function properly.

3. A great many of them are actually parliamentary monarchies......
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Post  bb1 Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:09 am

St Andrews Day is bringing a wave of bad news for oor ain Ms Sturgeon, including:

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I don't think sparking a Tory revival in Scotland was quite what she intended...
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Post  lily Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:10 pm

Oh dear.....Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:32 pm

And they wonder why the Right is rising all over Europe....it's utter madness. And Italy is still providing a water taxi service for any 'refugees' they find 100 yards off the coast of Libya.

This is going to end very, very badly, IMO.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/738151/Sweden-Stockholm-car-fire-epidemic-rage-no-go-zone

SWEDEN BURNING: Stockholm in flames as car fire epidemic rages in 'no-go' zone


Sweden's still leading the race to be Western Europe's first failed state.
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