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Post  bb1 Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:24 pm

I've watched it right now during the news at SIC. Although the video of Amaral coming out of the court seemed so very 'plastic', no supporters, no lawyer, no press interviews... Nobody.

A very telling comment, IMO. Mind you, hole-in-corner decisions tend not to attract much attention....

It was very much a Pyrric victory for Gonc, wasn't it? Things went downhill all the way after that.
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Post  bb1 Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:29 pm

With this decision, Gonçalo Amaral, who advocates the theory of participation of Gerry and Kate in their daughter's disappearance in May 2007 in Praia da Luz, Algarve, will also be able to give interviews in Portugal and abroad.

Didn't quite work out like that - he was persona non grata everywhere, afterwards.

Oh, except for Dear Julia's daytime telly couch, of course, on that TV station one of his cronies is involved with. And that interview with James Murray where he babbled about abductors and CCTV, neither of which were supposed to exist in Goncworld.

And how could we forget his triumph in his old school gym, at the PTA meeting?

Who knows, maybe a good few in Portugal smelled Rattus from that peculiar hearing as well? Pcorneater
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Post  Jean-Pierre.t50 Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:55 am

Comment from Montclair

"I don't know if you know but in Portugal only the claimant can request an ajournment or suspension of a court case. Also, I would like to draw to your attention the affidavit from CR, which was made public in the TB trial, where they confirm that it was the McCanns who requested the ajournment in order to obtain some kind of vindication. I really do not understand why there are still people who will not accept the fact that it was the couple who asked for the supension."


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Quite correct - if the defendant could ask for adjournment or suspension that would be ridiculous. The claimant must always have the whip hand, as it is the claimant who is bringing the action. The Claimants asking teh court for suspension of the proceedings while a settlement was explored has never been in question.

But to extend this to "the Mccanns are running scared and want to settle on Amarals terms" is equally stupid.

If they wanted to cease the action, they would do just that. Withdraw.

It is clear, if one applies an ounce of logic, that "Team amaral" asked if they could do a deal, The McCanns suspended proceedings to negotiate, an offer made, it was unacceptable so trial back on.





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Post  Sabot Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:02 am

She has destroyed her own argument, actually. Or she has for anyone with half a brain. She has stated in effect that The Defendant can't apply for a suspension, but has to ask The Claimant to do it.
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Post  bb1 Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:19 am

Just to repeat, in Very Big Letters:

in Portugal only the claimant can request an ajournment or suspension of a court case.

Which is a very different matter indeed from who blinked first. As we know, but many elsewhere seem unable to grasp. biggrin
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Post  bb1 Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:58 pm

I discovered that they were attempting to respond daily to the stuff on the blog

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Post  bb1 Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:50 pm

A forker laments....

Chortle-worthy tweet:

Gi' O'er ‏@MrsMLouis
@scrantlings Don't worry some of us are deconstructing Smiffy's latest bizarre post elsewhere ;-) #McCann

But as yet, despite several offers from others to discuss, no pro critique of said post.
I wonder why ......

Suppose when they've done their rigorous 'deconstruction' it'll be the usual - 'lies', hater', 'vile', 'mental', 'pitchforker' etc ...


Those egotistical, delusional ramblings don't need 'deconstructed'. Just an appropriate smiley or two....

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Post  bb1 Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:27 pm

Mitchell, in particular, was in many ways an amateur when confronted with new stories, very slow to think on his feet

What, like when airliners fall from the sky right in front of him? Doubtless the reason Clarrie is just about the most successful PR man in Britain is because he's an amateur.....


Seriously, that....that.....stream of consciousness tribute to egotism and delusion has to be one of the funniest, and most pathetic, creations anyone has seen for many a long day. No-one's 'deconstructing' it because they are all too busy laughing at it.

Bet Clarrie wouldn't fall for an unsourced bit of WUM-mery from Portugal, and rush to post pictures of burned bread on the strength of it. But then, he's an amateur in many ways, unlike the incredibly-successful legend in his own lunchtime that is smiffy. rofl rofl rofl rofl
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Post  Sabot Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:13 pm


I can hardly bear to think of what Clarence Mitchell has survived in support of Kate and Gerry McCann. And never a vestige of retaliation for his own sake. This is a truly honourable man.
Not much else anyone could say.
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Post  bb1 Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:46 am

Oh my very dear.....

Re: Blacksmith
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I don't understand why people here are criticising Blacksmith's postings. IMO, they are informative, interesting and give us an insight into the case. As to how he found out about the McCanns folding, that is true because a friend of mine got an email from a UK journalist asking if they knew anything about the rumour that the McCanns had folded and which was running rife around the newsdesks of most of the newspapers. This person didn't know anything BTW and was very surprised to hear about it. I wonder who leaked?


But it hasn't occurred to a single one of these investigative geniuses that there is only one WUM Source for this ridiculous tale? That it's the same person firing off all the emails, to journos and to them?

THE MCCANNS HAVE NOT 'FOLDED'

A reminder of Carolina/montclair's own words:

in Portugal only the claimant can request an ajournment or suspension of a court case

Which the McCanns' people did after that O Crime lawyer of Gonc's suggested talks. The terms offered were unacceptable so the libel trial is back on.

It's all perfectly logical and sensible. However, if deluded people choose to be taken in by some WUM, let's call him, oh, Luarte Devy, well, there's nothing we can do about it, is there?

Smiffy fell for it, IMO, because he was told what he wanted to hear, and his ego was being flattered because he thought he was being told Secret Things. Which led to much bombast and pics of burned bread.

And the moral is - if something seems to good to be true - it probably is. Smiffy even admitted he had no proper Source for this nonsense, which really should have set off alarm bells.

It did with the real media, which is why the nonsense has been ignored in the UK, and other outlets have stuck in weasel words like, apparently. The 8rs have all been played for fools by their own heroes. Again.
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Post  Sabot Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:00 pm


It was probably a bit of damage limitation by Team Gonc. Leak this tale to that prat Smiffy so he can spread it around.
Meanwhile, Gonc is saying rein de tout so it's nothing to do with him. He's not telling lies, No Siree.

All The McCanns had to do was drop the case and withdraw. But The Libel Trial is still on, so they aren't exactly saving themselves any hassle, are they.
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Post  bb1 Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:07 pm

I would say that's about it, Sabot.

1. Start a malicious rumour.

2. Give that Useful Idiot smiffy enough misinformation for him to back up malicious rumour you yourself have started, probably without said Useful Idiot's knowledge.

3. Sit back and watch the show.

The lack of anything resembling a verifiable Source really should have rung alarm bells, but instead, smiffy jumped on the misinformation like a dog on a juicy bone.
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Post  Sabot Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:16 pm


And he's never even met Gonc, by his own admission. Smiffy is not going to be a happy bunny when he realizes what they have done to him. But it won't be Gonc because he done said noffink.
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Post  bb1 Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:22 pm

Put not your trust in princes. Or convicted perjurers.
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Post  bb1 Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:05 pm

matthew wright ‏@1matthewwright1
@wicatty009 spam off #mccann Amaral has more class in his little finger than all of you including your idols


Yeah, cos nothing says 'class' like committing perjury to cover up torture. rofl
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Post  lily Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:17 pm

bb1 wrote:matthew wright ‏@1matthewwright1
@wicatty009 spam off #mccann Amaral has more class in his little finger than all of you including your idols


Yeah, cos nothing says 'class' like committing perjury to cover up torture. rofl

Well that's obviously something that people like matthew wright aspire too. Pcorneater
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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:44 pm

I followed a link posted on MM which led to this gem:

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/read/9781447622277

No Stone Unturned
by Antony Sharples


Oh my very dear. No wonder it was self-published. Purple prose, hyperbole, waffle - yes, all the smiffy trademarks are there.
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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:28 pm

Sean Hyland ‏@ShyLand_
Gonçalo Amaral shows his affiliation to King Willy of the Voodoo posse in secret hand gestures anti #McCann pic.twitter.com/Y2YmSGekS1


Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

One shudders to think what this one means:

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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:38 pm

Astute forker:

Hi Lillyofthevalley, I sometimes find Blacksmith difficult to understand , but this was a good Blog and he seems to have some important contacts. Obviously he has to be careful what he says which is why his blogs are beyond comprehension at times, or else he was p***ed when he wrote them.!!

Well, something must have inspired him to write that load of egotistical nonsense. Maybe he has been hanging around Textusa too much, and has been influenced by 'her' recent post in which she likened herself to the Oracle of Delphi?
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Post  greenink211 Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:45 pm

bb1 wrote:Sean Hyland ‏@ShyLand_
Gonçalo Amaral shows his affiliation to King Willy of the Voodoo posse in secret hand gestures anti #McCann pic.twitter.com/Y2YmSGekS1


Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

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Google suggests that the cowardly lying thug called Hyland is now a fan of criminal gang leaders from the USA. I suppose that such a filthy lying thuggish person as Hyland (@LaffinAssasin) being interested in yet more criminal thuggish activity is only to be expected. It certainly fits with the personality he has shown over the years in his obscene twitter ranting.

Though how the twisted mind of LaffinAssasin (Sean Hyland) connives to involve Goncalo Amaral with US gangsters is a puzzle. Then again Amaral was involved with the alleged gangster Cristovao so it is possible.

http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/King_Willie
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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:59 pm

I don't think that's the real Laffinthug....but anything is possible, they are all insane.
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Post  greenink211 Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:05 pm

bb1 wrote:I don't think that's the real Laffinthug....but anything is possible, they are all insane.

Just playing the game and getting in a few digs about the infamous Scunthorpe hounder.

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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:27 pm

Ah, right, cross-purposes!

You know, they've got ten times worse since so many of them got involved with the lunatics on Icke.
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Post  bb1 Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:23 pm

Odd how his fan club are ignoring this little gem from smiffy:

We all know that Amaral lost that round and for the time being there was little more I could do to help, so my brief period manufacturing the news came to an end. But I'd learned my lessons and I'd learned enough about the methods of Team McCann to feel pretty sure that I'd be able to analyse whether the 2013 rumour was true or not before deciding whether to put it out. Always accepting, of course, that I might end up being wrong.

Setting aside the fact that the reaction of 'Team McCann' to the name 'John Blacksmith' is rumoured to be, Who? Can he make me a new garden gate? just pause to look at that, and think about it.

He's admitted to making up bullsh*t - or 'manufacturing news', more politely. Doesn't that bother his fans, hanging on his every garbled word as they do?

Thanks to our member who found this rather fitting tribute to smiffy and his pictures of burned bread....

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Post  Sabot Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:03 am


Yep, that is quite stunning. In fact it couldn't be more plain. He has been making it all up, and he has admitted it.
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